Ex-Premie.Org

Forum III Archive # 54

From: Jun 28, 1999

To: Jul 8, 1999

Page: 2 Of: 5



Major Barney Fife -:- London Calling Top of the Dial -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 14:36:51 (EDT)
__AJW -:- London Calling Top of the Dial -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 17:15:55 (EDT)
____Colonel Barney Klink -:- London Calling Top of the Dial -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 17:49:09 (EDT)
______AJW -:- God Save the Queen. -:- Thurs, Jul 08, 1999 at 03:50:34 (EDT)

Jean-Michel -:- What's Rob's job? -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 13:13:16 (EDT)
__Magi -:- DC - BAN THE SOB -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 16:24:20 (EDT)
____AJW -:- Rob -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 17:20:19 (EDT)
______VP -:- Free Anglea--OT nostalgia -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 21:10:00 (EDT)
________VP -:- Typo--Free Angela-nt -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 21:12:06 (EDT)
________Marianne -:- Free Anglea--OT nostalgia -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 21:27:13 (EDT)
__________VP -:- Free Anglea--more details ot -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 22:05:08 (EDT)
__________the birdman of barney -:- San Quentin (ot) -:- Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 14:15:55 (EDT)
____________VP -:- San Quentin (ot) -:- Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 22:10:30 (EDT)
__________JW -:- By The Way -:- Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 15:29:00 (EDT)
____________VP -:- Thanks, JW -:- Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 22:13:22 (EDT)
____________barney davis -:- Angela Davis (ot) -:- Thurs, Jul 08, 1999 at 02:18:34 (EDT)

Jean-Michel -:- DON'T MISS THIS! -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 12:32:47 (EDT)

barney v. 9 -:- Handy clipboard util (OT) -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 00:48:58 (EDT)
__Hang-in-there -:- Handy clipboard util (OT) -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 01:19:21 (EDT)
__Mw -:- works great... thanx(ot) (nt) -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 01:46:38 (EDT)

Johnny Pink -:- Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 19:00:04 (EDT)
__JHB -:- Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 19:23:01 (EDT)
__Sir Dave -:- Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 19:50:04 (EDT)
____Robyn -:- Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 20:39:56 (EDT)
______Sir Dave -:- Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 21:09:38 (EDT)
____Johnny Pink -:- Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -:- Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 14:25:07 (EDT)
______Robyn -:- Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -:- Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 15:57:00 (EDT)
__AJW -:- Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 03:26:58 (EDT)
____Brian -:- Helpless -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 11:08:41 (EDT)
______biff -:- Helpless -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 13:49:59 (EDT)
________Johnny Pink -:- Helpful -:- Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 11:05:22 (EDT)

jean-Michel -:- Soul Rush finally! -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 13:54:35 (EDT)
__Marianne -:- Soul Rush -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 14:13:24 (EDT)
____barney -:- Soul Rush - Eureka! -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 14:51:34 (EDT)
______barney -:- Bhole Ji in Vegas! -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 17:34:33 (EDT)
________Craz -:- Bhole Ji in Vegas! -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 17:38:31 (EDT)
__________barney -:- Technical Difficulties? (NT) -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 17:57:37 (EDT)
____________Craz -:- Technical Difficulties? (NT) -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 18:20:40 (EDT)
______________barney 5 -:- That is correct -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 18:27:48 (EDT)
________________Runamok -:- Pinhead Forum Wanted -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 02:06:38 (EDT)
__________________must -:- Pinhead Forum Wanted -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 04:19:59 (EDT)
____________________Runamok -:- Pinheads NOT Wanted -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 05:00:21 (EDT)
______________________Dear Pinhead boy or girl: -:- Pinheads NOT Wanted -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 05:46:02 (EDT)
________________________cp -:- THE skateboarding rap freak -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 06:11:29 (EDT)
__________________________Honey -:- Pinheads -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 14:49:16 (EDT)
________________________Runamok -:- Pinheads NOT Wanted -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 10:21:36 (EDT)
__________________________Nice -:- NOT Wanted -:- Thurs, Jul 08, 1999 at 00:14:42 (EDT)
____________________________Nice -:- Which way did he go Amuk? -:- Thurs, Jul 08, 1999 at 04:06:43 (EDT)
__Liz -:- Soul Rush finally! -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 21:56:44 (EDT)

Katie -:- To Gerry [cats OT :)] -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 11:48:40 (EDT)

DAC -:- Matt. 12:43-45, 1Tim. 1:17 -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 10:57:50 (EDT)
__Runamok -:- Your Jesus Freak Presence -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 14:30:17 (EDT)
____DAC -:- My Presence -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 18:43:29 (EDT)
______KB -:- My -misunderstandings -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 22:44:35 (EDT)
______AJW -:- Historical Perspective -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 03:33:09 (EDT)
________beragon -:- Historical Perspective -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 04:32:47 (EDT)
__AJW -:- Interpreting the scriptures -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 15:22:22 (EDT)
____Robyn -:- Interpreting the scriptures -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 08:01:10 (EDT)
______AJW -:- Interpreting the scriptures -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 11:51:43 (EDT)
________Robyn -:- Interpreting the scriptures -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 18:29:05 (EDT)
__What DAC stands for -:- Disturbed, advanced church- -:- Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 15:26:30 (EDT)

AJW -:- Millenium TV Show -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 09:23:57 (EDT)
__Jean-Michel -:- Hey Anth! -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 13:13:55 (EDT)
____AJW -:- Hey Anth! -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 13:29:22 (EDT)
______Rob -:- Hey Anth! -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 14:02:16 (EDT)
________AJW -:- Hey Anth! -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 14:11:48 (EDT)
__________Marianne -:- Manchester event -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 14:31:19 (EDT)
____________AJW -:- London event -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 14:48:46 (EDT)
________AJW -:- Hey Rob! -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 14:44:27 (EDT)
__________Rob -:- Journey's End -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 15:52:05 (EDT)
____________g's mom -:- finally a current premie -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 18:03:37 (EDT)
____________Curly -:- Maharaji? Just say Moe. -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 21:27:58 (EDT)
______________Marianne -:- Maharaji or Stooges? -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 21:43:39 (EDT)
________________Curly -:- Maharaji or Stooges? -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 22:28:55 (EDT)
__________________Marianne -:- Stooges absolutely -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 22:42:58 (EDT)
____________Marianne -:- Journey's End -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 23:14:39 (EDT)
______________Rob -:- Endless Journeys -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 00:37:56 (EDT)
________________Associates -:- Endless Journeys -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 01:16:04 (EDT)
________________Mw -:- Wow -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 01:43:04 (EDT)
__________________Catweasel -:- Wow -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 03:05:50 (EDT)
____________________is pretty weird, IS IS, ? -:- Wow -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 05:15:46 (EDT)
______________________Catweasel -:- So are you a spirit ? -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 06:37:42 (EDT)
________________________long dead relatives -:- So are you a spirit ? -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 22:57:47 (EDT)
________________cp -:- Rob the Hobbnobber -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 08:19:41 (EDT)
________________Gerry -:- They're running scared -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 12:34:52 (EDT)
__________________AJW -:- Channel 4 -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 17:25:09 (EDT)
____________________Marianne -:- Channel 4 -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 17:39:20 (EDT)
________________JW -:- Endless Nonsense -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 16:23:37 (EDT)
____________AJW -:- Journey's End -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 06:57:39 (EDT)
______________g's mom -:- Anth the incredible -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 12:31:11 (EDT)
__________VP -:- Geez, Anth! -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 16:08:48 (EDT)
____________Marianne -:- Wow, Anth! -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 16:33:03 (EDT)
______________barney 47 -:- Operation Black Galoshes -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 18:38:36 (EDT)
________________Mw -:- Operation Black Galoshes -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 19:16:28 (EDT)
________________Marianne -:- Operation Black Galoshes -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 20:24:16 (EDT)
__________________Mw -:- ummm ....interesting -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 21:55:07 (EDT)
____________________Marianne -:- ummm ....interesting -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 22:18:48 (EDT)
______________________AJW -:- Ren & Stimpy -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 12:17:08 (EDT)
________________Magi -:- Operation Black Galoshes -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 17:33:00 (EDT)
__________________Code of Silence barney -:- I can say this -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 18:46:53 (EDT)
____________________Magi -:- I can say this -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 22:01:52 (EDT)
______________AJW -:- What a drag. -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 12:57:32 (EDT)

barney -:- Variety bows to Scientology? -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 03:02:13 (EDT)
__Polly -:- Variety bows to Scientology? -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 03:59:36 (EDT)
____barney -:- Yes, like rubber boots -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 04:55:17 (EDT)
______Polly -:- Yes, like rubber boots -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 05:39:40 (EDT)

Liz -:- The Castle (ot) -:- Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 19:59:40 (EDT)
__Anth's Wife -:- The Castle (ot) -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 13:34:09 (EDT)

Liz -:- World's End (ot) -:- Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 19:54:38 (EDT)
__Sir Dave -:- World's End is a misprint -:- Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 20:15:11 (EDT)
____Mel Bourne -:- World's End..or just WW3 -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 05:41:12 (EDT)
______Sir Dave -:- World's End..or just WW3 -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 08:01:53 (EDT)
__Stevei -:- World's End/Gandalf Garden -:- Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 14:02:13 (EDT)
____Lizzie -:- World's End/Gandalf Garden -:- Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 23:09:49 (EDT)
______Stevei -:- Grany's Or?? -:- Thurs, Jul 08, 1999 at 05:53:45 (EDT)

Brian -:- New Journeys entry -:- Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 09:26:57 (EDT)
__Helen -:- New Journeys entry -:- Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 22:54:33 (EDT)
__AJW -:- New Journeys entry -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 13:40:45 (EDT)
____Marianne -:- New Journeys entry -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 14:45:55 (EDT)
____Lalita -:- New Journeys entry -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 21:24:31 (EDT)

Catweasel -:- Time Flies -:- Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 08:44:54 (EDT)
__Rob -:- Time Flies -:- Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 15:20:23 (EDT)
____KB -:- Premie Flies -:- Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 16:04:32 (EDT)
______Rob -:- Premie Files -:- Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 20:17:53 (EDT)
________KB -:- Foster and Toohey -:- Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 23:28:56 (EDT)
__________Rob -:- Child -:- Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 23:40:21 (EDT)
____________KB -:- 'oneness' right? -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 00:01:54 (EDT)
______________Rob -:- 'oneness' right? -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 00:09:24 (EDT)
________________KB -:- 'oneness' right? -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 00:21:20 (EDT)
__________________Rob -:- 'oneness' right? -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 00:26:45 (EDT)
____________________KB -:- 'oneness' right? -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 01:01:43 (EDT)
______________________Rob -:- 'oneness' right? -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 01:26:18 (EDT)
________________________KB -:- 'oneness' right? -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 01:48:47 (EDT)
____________KB -:- Child -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 00:18:11 (EDT)
______________Rob -:- Child -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 00:33:26 (EDT)
________________KB -:- Child -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 00:53:06 (EDT)
____Ross -:- Brad something -:- Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 17:04:49 (EDT)
______Rob -:- Brad something -:- Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 20:16:11 (EDT)
________Sir Dave -:- A question before bedtime -:- Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 20:34:18 (EDT)
__________KB -:- A question before bedtime -:- Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 23:24:35 (EDT)
__________Liz -:- A question before bedtime -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 00:11:38 (EDT)
____________Rob -:- A question before bedtime -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 00:37:33 (EDT)
______________Jerry -:- A question before bedtime -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 01:01:14 (EDT)
________________Enlightenment -:- A question before bedtime -:- Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 01:34:15 (EDT)
______________Lizzie -:- A question before bedtime -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 21:59:18 (EDT)
______Marianne -:- Brad something -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 15:13:32 (EDT)
________Ross -:- Brad something -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 17:41:42 (EDT)
____Wanderer -:- HEY ROB... -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 00:59:00 (EDT)
______Rob -:- HEY ROB... -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 01:29:11 (EDT)
__AJW -:- Time Flies -:- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 13:53:59 (EDT)


Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 14:36:51 (EDT)
From: Major Barney Fife
Email: None
To: Everyone
Subject: London Calling Top of the Dial
Message:
Ok, you London pubcrawlers where's the progress report on Opertation Manchester?

How many signs with www.ex-premie.org have you prepared?

Have you arranged transport, decoys, codenames, passwords, and meeting locations?

Please don't make me fly on that junky Concorde again to kick some butt.
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 17:15:55 (EDT)
From: AJW
Email: None
To: Major Barney Fife
Subject: London Calling Top of the Dial
Message:
Major Barney,

I'm sending a spy.

I'll interogate her when she gets back and give a full report.

Anthon
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 17:49:09 (EDT)
From: Colonel Barney Klink
Email: None
To: AJW
Subject: London Calling Top of the Dial
Message:
Excellent AJW, but will it be an impartial report?

Also, the mission is to exercise free speech (You do have that in England? I know that you cannot criticize the Royals and as a descendant of Cromwell I understand) and have at least one person in Manchester walking around with a sign that says only: www.ex-premie.org and maybe Where don't you want to go today?
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Date: Thurs, Jul 08, 1999 at 03:50:34 (EDT)
From: AJW
Email: None
To: Colonel Barney Klink
Subject: God Save the Queen.
Message:
Hi Barney,

Our royal family are a bunch of inbred, parasitic morons. The French knew how to deal with royalty and we should follow their example.

Anth the Republican.
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 13:13:16 (EDT)
From: Jean-Michel
Email: None
To: Everyone
Subject: What's Rob's job?
Message:
I think this guy is here with some guidelines 'from the top' obviously.

Deterring premies from reading/posting here, threatening and spreading fear of the Almighty Raw-rat.

What I find interesting is that anyone can see this, but I don't like him being here.

Hey Rob why don't you simply play with your Lard and leave us alone? I don't fear you and your 'master'. I don't think that many premies fear you either. You have no authority here, and anywhere else as a matter of fact, outside The Lard's Court. Go and play in the yard...
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 16:24:20 (EDT)
From: Magi
Email: None
To: Jean-Michel
Subject: DC - BAN THE SOB
Message:
JM,

Obviously Rob is performing damage control with a bit of intimidation thrown in.

I repectfully request that ROB be banned based upon several of his aspersions and our present webmasters allow Jim back in.

It is crucial to the survival of this forum that Jim comes back and helps out here.

Brian and Katie - if you can't see it, understand it, or recognize what is going on with Rob then I respectfully request you get an off forum concensus on this - quickly -.

Magi
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 17:20:19 (EDT)
From: AJW
Email: None
To: Magi
Subject: Rob
Message:
magi,

let him answer the questions he's been asked below.

Anth Chairman Free shp, Free Jim, Free Rob campaign.
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 21:10:00 (EDT)
From: VP
Email: None
To: AJW
Subject: Free Anglea--OT nostalgia
Message:
I have this button from the 60's or the 70's with a photo of an African American woman on it. It also has the words 'Free Angela' written on it. Anyone care to give me a history lesson? I am too young to know what this button means.

Also, ANTH are you going to make those buttons for your campaigns, too?-heh heh...Free Jim or Free SHP
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 21:12:06 (EDT)
From: VP
Email: None
To: all
Subject: Typo--Free Angela-nt
Message:
oops! I'm a little rusty having been gone so long.........
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 21:27:13 (EDT)
From: Marianne
Email: None
To: VP
Subject: Free Anglea--OT nostalgia
Message:
VP: The button you have is for Angela Davis. She was prosecuted for the jail break from the Marin County, Calif. prison, San Quentin Prison, of her lover, George Jackson. This is 60's history. I go to San Quentin every week to see clients on death row. Your button is an important 60's artifact. Hold onto it. Rob probalby slept through the whole thing! More details if you want them --- it's a rich, and important, history! Marianne
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 22:05:08 (EDT)
From: VP
Email: None
To: Marianne
Subject: Free Anglea--more details ot
Message:
Thanks, Marianne. More details? Sure! I was probably three at the time and I am not from that part of the country so I wouldn't know anything about it. Hey, my best friend lived in Marin county. Maybe if you tell me more, I can one-up him with my knowledge of Angela Davis next time we get together :)
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Date: Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 14:15:55 (EDT)
From: the birdman of barney
Email: None
To: Marianne
Subject: San Quentin (ot)
Message:
Marianne,

Angela Davis, sweat black angel, not a clean up girl (Rolling Stones - Exile on Main Street.) Those were the days! I still think that the Patty Hearst and the SLA thing was the wildest, most bizarre event of the underground. Next was the late Eldridge Cleaver modeling leather pants with a little extended pouch for his, uh, er, member.

Ah, the prisons of the Bay Area, my old home sweet home.

On my recent trip to Oakland a few years ago to see the Big M I stopped by San Quentin. What a lovely place! Get a room with a view and you've got it made for twenty years.

As a kid, a long time ago, my uncle had a sailboat and we sailed around Alcatraz which was in operation. I also remember the escapes from Alcatraz where they made little rafts from rubber raincoats.

When I'm travelling the country I always make a point of visiting prisons and cemeteries. Leavenworth in Kansas is one heck of Federal Prison that I think goes back to the 19th century and you can see all the additions throughout the years. Apparently, it's pretty bad inside.

I'd love to see the prison in South America (Peru?) that is at 10 or 12 thousand feet and doesn't have windows or heat.

And, isn't all of Australia a prison or something? ;)
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Date: Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 22:10:30 (EDT)
From: VP
Email: None
To: the birdman of barney
Subject: San Quentin (ot)
Message:
Actually Australia started out as a prison colony, or so I'm told. So did the state of Georgia in the U.S.
VP
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Date: Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 15:29:00 (EDT)
From: JW
Email: None
To: Marianne
Subject: By The Way
Message:
Just adding to Marianne's information -- Angela Davis was acquitted by a Marin County jury of those accusations. It was widely viewed as a political trial, as I believe she had been a member of the Black Panthers and the prosecution happened while Reagan was governor of California. Angela has written a number of books, speaks all the time, and is a professor at the University of California at Santa Cruz.

Right now she is heading up some kind of an organization about the prison industrial complex (alliances between politicians, prison guard organizations, builders, etc.) that wants laws to lock more people up (mostly people of color) because they profit from the system. [By the way, the prison guard's association was the LARGEST contributor to Pete Wilson's last campaign for governor of California.] I saw her speak on this about a year ago in San Francisco.
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Date: Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 22:13:22 (EDT)
From: VP
Email: None
To: JW
Subject: Thanks, JW
Message:
That was interesting and I'm very glad to know so much about the woman on my button.
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Date: Thurs, Jul 08, 1999 at 02:18:34 (EDT)
From: barney davis
Email: None
To: JW
Subject: Angela Davis (ot)
Message:
Didn't know that she was a Panther. Wasn't she also a professor in S.F. or Berekley?
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 12:32:47 (EDT)
From: Jean-Michel
Email: None
To: Everyone
Subject: DON'T MISS THIS!
Message:
4 more chpaters online today:

Soul Rush Chapters 12-15

CHAPTER 12: Millennium Fever.
CHAPTER 13: Soul Rush.
CHAPTER 14: The Rawat's War.
CHAPTER 15: Development of DUO.

A lot of juicy stuff, I couldn't believe it!

And even more to come in the next chapters!

Thank you Prempal for so much fun!
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 00:48:58 (EDT)
From: barney v. 9
Email: None
To: Everyone
Subject: Handy clipboard util (OT)
Message:
Here's a free utility from PC Magazine that saves multiple items that you copy into your clipboard. It allows you to select previous items that were in the clipboard and put them back into the clipboard so you can paste them again.

Here's the link to PC Mag and go to DOWNLOADS and find ClipTrak (168k).

or you can FTP it FTP here

Be sure that you bring the full window up and go to the settings page and assign a hot key to quickly bring up the menu for faster selection.
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 01:19:21 (EDT)
From: Hang-in-there
Email: None
To: barney v. 9
Subject: Handy clipboard util (OT)
Message:
Subject:
Handy clipboard util (OT)

__----------------------------------___

You sound lonely and needing to share?
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 01:46:38 (EDT)
From: Mw
Email: None
To: barney v. 9
Subject: works great... thanx(ot) (nt)
Message:
xyz
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 19:00:04 (EDT)
From: Johnny Pink
Email: None
To: Everyone
Subject: Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message:
I received Knowledge back in the early 70's and couldn't handle the torque. That's when I realized I was an asshole so I decided to complain to this site. Me innocent, reality out there guilty.
Will somebody please help me!
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 19:23:01 (EDT)
From: JHB
Email: None
To: Johnny Pink
Subject: Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message:
JP,

What is the problem you need help with? Is your car broken down? You have a plumbing problem? Is it sexual? Financial?

Come on, give us some details.

John.
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 19:50:04 (EDT)
From: Sir Dave
Email: david.studio57@btinternet.com
To: Johnny Pink
Subject: Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message:
You were lookng for further meaning or experience and got sucked into one heavy trip. The meditation techniques are just that - meditation techniques, but Maharaji's cult has dressed them up to be this fantasmagorical trip which really is just a fantasy and a bunch of old codswallop.

There is no path to follow and there is no ultimate aim of human life with Maharaji's knowledge. Nobody ever got to where Maharaji was talking about and in fact, he changes the goal-posts every few years to suit the current climate. He is only in this for his own benefit and not for other people's.

He now hates the people who gave their lives to him in the seventies. Maharaji never loved you. He probably never knew you existed. The whole thing was happening inside your own head and not Maharaji's. It was one massive mind fuck. You came innocently into the trip and got stitched up and perhaps had a lot of guilt trips layed on you. It was not your fault. You are not an asshole.
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 20:39:56 (EDT)
From: Robyn
Email: None
To: Sir Dave
Subject: Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message:
Dear Dave,
I thought this, JP's post was sarcasm?
R
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 21:09:38 (EDT)
From: Sir Dave
Email: None
To: Robyn
Subject: Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message:
Well it was lost on me. Perhaps if the English grammar had been correct I would have seen the joke. Anyway, my brief synopsis could be useful for anyone else who might be reading.

It's my bedtime now. Will the 'cats' come back tonight, or what?
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Date: Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 14:25:07 (EDT)
From: Johnny Pink
Email: None
To: Sir Dave
Subject: Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message:
Robyn is right, my post was supposed to be sarcastic.

I just re-read your post however and, at the risk of sounding maudlin, was touched by your concern.
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Date: Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 15:57:00 (EDT)
From: Robyn
Email: None
To: Johnny Pink
Subject: Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message:
Dear JP,
Well there is one good thing that has come out of my being on the forum...My shit detector is getting better! Still needs lots of work but I have learned some skills through some hard knocks about not just taking people at their word. A shame in a way but a needed skill just the same.
Robyn
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 03:26:58 (EDT)
From: AJW
Email: None
To: Johnny Pink
Subject: Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message:
Hi Johnny,

Don't worry, it's being assholes that sets us apart from the rest of the animal kingdom.

Have you had a look round the rest of the site?

Why don't you write your story and send it to the 'Journeys' section.

Anth the Paleantologist.
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 11:08:41 (EDT)
From: Brian
Email: brian@ex-premie.org
To: AJW
Subject: Helpless
Message:
Actually, he already 'submitted' a Journeys entry. It consisted word-for-word of his post above. We looked at it, puzzled over it for a few minutes, and then just deleted the email.

If the person who posted this is being serious, it's just not coming through. Try a different approach, Johnny Pink.
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 13:49:59 (EDT)
From: biff
Email: None
To: Brian
Subject: Helpless
Message:
When I first read pink's post I was pretty sure that it was the posters attempt at an indictment of this site and the ex-premies in general. He's seems to be trying to say- 'you're all just a bunch of stuck in the 70's assholes and it's all your fault that K/M didn't work out for you but all you 70's losers do is come to this site to blame your issues on everything outside yourself'

Same old same old.
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Date: Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 11:05:22 (EDT)
From: Johnny Pink
Email: responsibility@power.com
To: biff
Subject: Helpful
Message:
When I first read pink's post I was pretty sure that it was the posters attempt at an indictment of this site and the ex-premies in general. He's seems to be trying to say- 'you're all just a bunch of stuck in the 70's assholes and it's all your fault that K/M didn't work out for you but all you 70's losers do is come to this site to blame your issues on everything outside yourself'

Same old same old.


Right on biff, but hey mea culpa works! You should try it. It's called taking responsibility for your experience rather than blaming outside sources. Blaming others is like driving your car using the rear-view mirror as a steering wheel. I have good news for you sparky. You are responsible for what happens to you, no one else. Your experience has one source and one source only . . .YOU! We each create our own personality reality.

So if your life isn't working, guess who's doing it to you? NOBODY ELSE IS DOING IT TO YOU! When you get that you are going to give up 90% of the bullshit that is running your life. So don't try to justify that helpless victim crap biff, you're a volunteer not a victim. WE ARE EACH RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT HAPPENS TO US! Until you get that, your life is going to continue to be shit!

Same old, same old? Well biff, some things are always true. You don't have to believe me, but if you DO get what I'm saying here, you will no longer be able to derive sickly comfort from blaming 'others' for your present troubles. You create your own reality. Take responsibility for your life. It'll make you feel better!

Jonathan Q. Pink
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 13:54:35 (EDT)
From: jean-Michel
Email: None
To: Everyone
Subject: Soul Rush finally!
Message:
online (wide excerpts)

Soul Rush, The Odyssey of a Young Woman in the 70s'

by Sophia Collier. Published in 1978.

Worth reading, for those who've also been there, and for those who haven't!!
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 14:13:24 (EDT)
From: Marianne
Email: None
To: jean-Michel
Subject: Soul Rush
Message:
Yes, I have returned after my brief respite. Who could ignore the oh so appropriate fireworks between the cat and the shill yesterday?

Read the excerpts from the book. As has been mentioned here previously, there are very interesting passages about how the corporate culture was created in DLM. This book is a very important piece of the puzzle and a very important historical document.
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 14:51:34 (EDT)
From: barney
Email: None
To: Marianne
Subject: Soul Rush - Eureka!
Message:
J-M, you are the BEST!

Your site, The Elan Vital - Divine Light Mission Papers, is a tremendous resource.
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 17:34:33 (EDT)
From: barney
Email: None
To: barney
Subject: Bhole Ji in Vegas!
Message:
I just finished reading the Soul Rush and am waiting for the rest as it getting to the god stuff.

God, we sure were naive.

Did Bhole Ji (BJ), the embodiment of art and music, really know anything about music or was he just lording over Blue Aquarius like Milli & Vanilli?

Could you imagine stuffing BJ into his blue sequined suit (after adding some elastic side panels) and getting the band back together to do a Las Vegas comeback? Surely, there must be an ex-premie with lots of money to blow on such a farce. He could toss his sweat soaked scarfs to the swooning females.
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 17:38:31 (EDT)
From: Craz
Email: None
To: barney
Subject: Bhole Ji in Vegas!
Message:
From:
barney
Email:
None
To:
barney
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 17:57:37 (EDT)
From: barney
Email: None
To: Craz
Subject: Technical Difficulties? (NT)
Message:
nt
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 18:20:40 (EDT)
From: Craz
Email: None
To: barney
Subject: Technical Difficulties? (NT)
Message:
'Technical Difficulties? (NT)'

O' you had a, thought prob., I understand, I did think it was strange that you did a To: barney --- From: barney, well have fun talking to barney, barney.
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 18:27:48 (EDT)
From: barney 5
Email: None
To: Craz
Subject: That is correct
Message:
Yes, I'm usually in a conversation with any one of my 64 personalities each with one supernatural god-like power. If only I could harness them altogether I could be somebody in this life and help people and they could enjoy that help and they would be grateful to me. As it is I'm on the streets panhandling and dumpster diving. Oh, the horror.

The one to watch for is Ummblad. We all almost went to jail because of him.
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 02:06:38 (EDT)
From: Runamok
Email: None
To: barney 5
Subject: Pinhead Forum Wanted
Message:
Man what is with all the pinheads that keep posting here?

They must be premies.
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 04:19:59 (EDT)
From: must
Email: None
To: Runamok
Subject: Pinhead Forum Wanted
Message:
'Pinhead Forum Wanted

They must be premies.'

---------------------------------

Lets burn them at the stake, Booooo, The funny part is you take this, 'Pleaa'/Plee, Save me ma Lord.

Ha ha ha ha ha hahahahahahaha.
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 05:00:21 (EDT)
From: Runamok
Email: None
To: must
Subject: Pinheads NOT Wanted
Message:
Dear Pinhead boy or girl:

Ever hear that Dylan line or portion thereof:
'There are many here among us who think that life is but a joke.'

It goes on:
'But you and I, we've been through that and this not our fate.'

Do you think life is a joke, or do you just think that the lives of ex-premies are a joke?

If the latter is the case, does it make a good excuse for you to act like a total pinhead? Do you mean to insult us or do you just have so little to say in general that you feel like you can at least add a little of air of insult to people who deserve it so much?

You really seem as malicious as can be in all your varied incarnations online here. I'll bet you think of yourself as the sweetest little loving in Mirage's heart, don't you?
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 05:46:02 (EDT)
From: Dear Pinhead boy or girl:
Email: None
To: Runamok
Subject: Pinheads NOT Wanted
Message:
If the latter is the case, does it make a good excuse for you to act like a total pinhead? Do you mean to insult us or do you just have so little to say in general that you feel like you can at incarnations online here. I'll bet you think of yourself as the sweetest little loving in Mirage's heart, don't you?

---------------

You make not '{[( 1 )]}' 'Fact', but, I would be pre-supposing that you even cared, well obviously you did not care about facts, your maybe an emotional type, haha, ok, well the thing is to have an intellectual conversation it would be nice for the accuser to put forth some, 'Facts'. to those that you want to Ethnically Cleanse of, “””YOUR life”””.

If you get my point, lets be nice.
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 06:11:29 (EDT)
From: cp
Email: None
To: thread
Subject: THE skateboarding rap freak
Message:
is back

yo
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 14:49:16 (EDT)
From: Honey
Email: None
To: cp
Subject: Pinheads
Message:
Hey now.

Some of my best friends are pinheads<>+<>=<><>

Highly doubtful that they're the premies of the nineties unless they have lots of $$$$. They tell me that rawat is a phreak to them. But he pays well for certain stimulating commodities they are able to provide that satisfy his sundry proclivities.

Honey
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 10:21:36 (EDT)
From: Runamok
Email: None
To: Dear Pinhead boy or girl:
Subject: Pinheads NOT Wanted
Message:
But the point is you are NOT nice and you don't attempt to play by any rules. Rather you're play is to obscure and confuse the 'game', although it's not a game.

Keep your 'haha's' to yourself if you're looking for any sympathy from me. Don't play like vermin and then beg for your prey to be nice.

Try posting so that we can see what you say versus what I say by using quotes ('') or arrows (<>).

There's no possibility of me being an ethnic cleanser here. I don't know who or what you are except that you smell of Miragey. It's strictly wishful thinking on your point to hope that I am some kind of villain.

Anyway, later. You're a bore and a half at least.
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Date: Thurs, Jul 08, 1999 at 00:14:42 (EDT)
From: Nice
Email: None
To: Runamok the real PinHead
Subject: NOT Wanted
Message:
'But the point is you are NOT nice and you don't attempt to play by any rules.' Is what you said, then you had my reply removed, well this one might or might not sick, but it is YOU who has a problem with Rules, Honor, being clear and truthful.

You are a sack of shit, light a match and burn, or if not I'm sure someone will do it for you.

'You smell of Miragey', is what you said.

You smell like, The old Dark Ages, you would have someone burning at the Stake, because someone seems to be an evil person according to the fucked-up Priest or someone like you, you are sooooo Fucked -up!

Deal in, 'FACTS', not conjecture, you fucking shithead.

And the facts are you are ready to burn.

HA HA HA
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Date: Thurs, Jul 08, 1999 at 04:06:43 (EDT)
From: Nice
Email: None
To: A run away amuk.
Subject: Which way did he go Amuk?
Message:
HA HA HA
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 21:56:44 (EDT)
From: Liz
Email: None
To: jean-Michel
Subject: Soul Rush finally!
Message:
I can't tell you how much I enjoyed soul Rush.

Thanks and thanks to Sophie Collier.

Love,

Liz
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 11:48:40 (EDT)
From: Katie
Email: mishkat@gateway.net
To: Gerry
Subject: To Gerry [cats OT :)]
Message:
Hi Gerry -
Could you please check your e-mail?

Thanks!
Katie
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 10:57:50 (EDT)
From: DAC
Email: None
To: Everyone
Subject: Matt. 12:43-45, 1Tim. 1:17
Message:
When an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest, and finds none.
Then he says, 'I will return to my house from which I came.' And when he comes, he finds it empty, swept, and put in order.
The he goes and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first. So shall it also be with this wicked generation.

Matthew 12:43-45

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Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, to God who alone is wise, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.

1 Timothy 1: 17
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 14:30:17 (EDT)
From: Runamok
Email: None
To: DAC
Subject: Your Jesus Freak Presence
Message:
Are you a permanent fixture here now Mr Jesus Freak?

Do we go now to the perfect and pure presence of your freaky butt's postings at every visit to the forum?
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 18:43:29 (EDT)
From: DAC
Email: None
To: Runamok
Subject: My Presence
Message:
No, not a Jesus Freak, I'm a premie, a lover of TRUTH (the kind of truth that can't be put into words). Didn't know that Bible quotes were freaky or that they had anything to do with my butt. Thanks for sharing.

Just want to put the experience of Knowledge into a western historical perspective.

And yeah baby, if I don't get bored or barred, DAC will be back!
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 22:44:35 (EDT)
From: KB
Email: None
To: DAC
Subject: My -misunderstandings
Message:
Isnt there any 'scriptures' about lying?
and spiritual pride?
and having false gods?
and the devil?
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 03:33:09 (EDT)
From: AJW
Email: None
To: DAC
Subject: Historical Perspective
Message:
Hi DAC,

You said you wanted to put 'knowledge' into a western historical perspective.

It's a small Hindu cult that, among with many other cults, attained a brief popularity in the West around the end of the 20th Century.

If you can present one minute shred of historical evidence (outside of the cults own publications) that there is such a thing as a 'succession of Perfect Masters' I'll publicly eat my beragon, dressed as Florence Nightingale, video it and send you a copy.

Anth the Historian
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 04:32:47 (EDT)
From: beragon
Email: None
To: Anth the Historian
Subject: Historical Perspective
Message:
'It's a small Hindu cult that, among with many other cults, attained a brief popularity in the West around the end of the 20th Century.'

---------------------------------------------------------------

WOW - 10points. Well done

---------------------------------------------------------------

'If you can present one minute shred of historical evidence (outside of the cults own publications) that there is such a thing as a 'succession of Perfect Masters' I'll publicly eat my beragon, dressed as Florence Nightingale, video it and send you a copy.

Anth the Historian'

----------------------------------------------------------------

This is the ?????????????????????????????????????????????????
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 15:22:22 (EDT)
From: AJW
Email: None
To: DAC
Subject: Interpreting the scriptures
Message:
'When an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest, and finds none.'

This means, when you throw up, probably because you're drunk, after, you want to go somewhere dry and have a kip, but you're still pissed and don't know where the hell you are.

'Then he says, 'I will return to my house from which I came.'

So you think, 'fuck it, I'm going home'.

'And when he comes, he finds it empty, swept, and put in order.'

Your wife has cleaned up.

'The he goes and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first. So shall it also be with this wicked generation.'

So you phone some of your mates up to come round for a drink and a smoke.

Matthew 12:43-45 (I assume you have an appointment with 'Matthew around quarter to one).

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, to God who alone is wise, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.

'Here's to you mate'.

1 Timothy 1: 17 (Another appointment)

Here endeth my interpretation of the above computer file

Anthstrodamus del Mablethorpe Lincs
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 08:01:10 (EDT)
From: Robyn
Email: None
To: AJW
Subject: Interpreting the scriptures
Message:
Dear Anth,
Well shit that was funny! :) I almost read it a couple of times but passed it by. I don't know if you are aware that there is a small following abiding by my religious views. I think I'd like you to join the group. :) My only things is believe in nothing but the possibility of anything.
Love,
Robyn
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 11:51:43 (EDT)
From: AJW
Email: None
To: Robyn
Subject: Interpreting the scriptures
Message:
Hi Robyn,

How big is the voluntary donation to join?

Do I get to watch videos of you?

Anth the Gullable
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 18:29:05 (EDT)
From: Robyn
Email: None
To: AJW
Subject: Interpreting the scriptures
Message:
Dear Anth,
Belly dancing videos, yes! The whole Goddess thing you know. Roger was in negotiations about the videos but he has since been preocuppied being a supportive friend to Barney! :) I'll have to get on his shit, where is the videos or you'll go to HELL!
Power corrupt but absolute power is kind of neat! :)
The money thing was also up in the air, Sir said he'd donate 110% of himself, can't ask for more than that, eh?
This is an up and coming religion and you would be getting in on the ground floor and lots of the fees for the future could be waived for early joiners, with Sir's generous offering of his whole self is something to compare one's self to...
Love,
The Goddess Robyn, Tigress for short
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Date: Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 15:26:30 (EDT)
From: What DAC stands for
Email: None
To: DAC
Subject: Disturbed, advanced church-
Message:
goer. You're in a cult, buddy!
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 09:23:57 (EDT)
From: AJW
Email: None
To: Everyone
Subject: Millenium TV Show
Message:
Hi,

A few months ago, somebody from British Channel 4 TV appeared on the Forum looking for ex-premies who went to the Millenium programme in Houston around 74.

They interviewed an Ex from London, Syd, who occasionally contributes here.

Anyway, I'm not dead certain, but I think the show is being broadcast on Channel 4, next Saturday July 10th, at 10.30pm. It was made by a company called 'Diverse Productions', who borrowed one of my posters to feature in the show.

This is an example of the good work being done by the Forum. We're the only place where people can find an alternative to the party line found on Enjoyingpap.org

Keep up the good work Katie and Brian.

Anth the Goggle-eyed.
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 13:13:55 (EDT)
From: Jean-Michel
Email: None
To: AJW
Subject: Hey Anth!
Message:
Please record the show, and keep the copy!

I'd love to watch it.
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 13:29:22 (EDT)
From: AJW
Email: None
To: Jean-Michel
Subject: Hey Anth!
Message:
Bonjour Jean-Michel,

Pas de probleme (pour ma premie femme a faire, parce-que je serai a Brussels le prochaine week-end).

A bientot

Anton le Franglais
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 14:02:16 (EDT)
From: Rob
Email: None
To: AJW
Subject: Hey Anth!
Message:
Were you planning on going to the Manchester event?
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 14:11:48 (EDT)
From: AJW
Email: None
To: Rob
Subject: Hey Anth!
Message:
Yes,

I'll be there mate. With a good seat at the front, giving it my all.

Anth the Fan

(You are talking about the Forest Man City game next season aren't you?)
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 14:31:19 (EDT)
From: Marianne
Email: None
To: AJW
Subject: Manchester event
Message:
Anth: How are you? It turns out that I have to go to Ireland later this week to begin preparations for my teaching sojourn which begins in January. I'm coming through London and am planning to attend the Manchester event. Could we get together for a few drinks while I'm in London? I'd love to meet 'Anth's wife' too if she wants to come along. What do you say? Your trip to the pub with the other ex's sounded too good to miss.
Marianne
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 14:48:46 (EDT)
From: AJW
Email: anthginn@yahoo.com
To: Marianne
Subject: London event
Message:
Hi Marianne,

I'm in London until Friday, then I'm back late on Tuesday. If you're in town when I am, I'd love to meet up. If it works out we could all go out for a meal or something.

Anyway, email me, and I'll send you our phone number.

Anth the socialite
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 14:44:27 (EDT)
From: AJW
Email: None
To: Rob
Subject: Hey Rob!
Message:
Hi Rob,

I just had dinner with my premie wife, who informed me that Maharaji is holding a cult meeting in Manchester on Saturday.

She's going. I'll be in Brussels at the weekend.

Your question made me think though, if I wasn't out of the country would I go?

Well, my gut feeling is 'No, I can think of a thousand other things I'd rather do. Hang, there are about a thousand videos in the shop over the road, make that a million, no, make it a trillion...'

No way Jose!

I had thought of going, then writing a report of the event for the Forum, but reporters aren't allowed.

Have you read my 'Journey' Rob, the last programme I went to I nearly thumped one of the guards, and I was into it then.

Better for everyone if I stay away.

Anth the Liable to Do Something Daft
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 15:52:05 (EDT)
From: Rob
Email: None
To: Anth
Subject: Journey's End
Message:
Anth,

Yes, I've read your lifestory, and it is obvious that your are indeed a professional writer. I was wondering if you have written any other novels?

Your skill comes across in your ability to recount great swathes of your life, but flavour it with just enough bitterness to where we get the idea that you really were duped all along, but hey, you're being magnanimous about it now, right?

I wish, I really wish, I could print that out and time-travel back to those days of which you speak. How do you think you would have reacted then, had someone presented you with a copy of that journey and told you that 'this is you, 15 years from now'? Thumped them?

You see I remember you from those days. You were happy; I mean genuinely happy, not all agog like some of those happy-clappers you referred to (you know, I can't stand them either).

It is a common trait to be found in all the 'Journeys' I have read. Something happens, a person becomes disenchanted for whatever reason, then there is this great 'awakening' and 'Omigosh, I've just escaped from the most horrendous, brainwashing cult imaginable'. It's bullshit Anth, and deep down I think you know it.

You know where the expression 'sour grapes' comes from? It's a story about a wolf, wandering through a vineyard. He sees the sweet grapes hanging up there, just out of his reach, and he jumps up, trying to grab them in his mouth. He knows they are sweet, he can smell them, sense them, but he just can't reach them. Time and time again he tries, but does not succeed. Finally he walks away, saying to himself 'screw it, those grapes were sour anyway'

Maybe it was because your newsletter scripts were rejected, maybe you couldn't handle the changes that began to happen. Hey, we were always told we're on a boat, right? Well guess what, the scenery's gonna change because we're moving. You jumped overboard because you didn't like the view? So now it wasn't a boat, it was a raft, and in a few years, just a big turd you were sitting on?

What now? You're going to put as much effort into trying to discredit Maharaji as you did in trying to serve him? OK, that's your choice. Are all your current premie friends aware of this too? Perhaps they 'accept you' in the hope you'll come back?

Whatever. But you've made your choice and planted yourself firmly in the enemy camp, so don't be surprised if you have a little trouble getting into future events. (Oh and before you ask, no I don't have any influence in that area, but then I'm not the only one reading the Forum, am I?)

I don't agree with that policy, I really don't. But if that does happen ever, try, please, to see that it's a situation you've created for yourself. Please don't fly off on a 'but the door is supposed to be always open' crusade, like Gail did. You know full well Maharaji has not rejected you and that gift of Knowledge is always there inside you. It's you that's turned your back in it.
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 18:03:37 (EDT)
From: g's mom
Email: None
To: Rob
Subject: finally a current premie
Message:
who can write and spell. Rob even knows how to use a paragraph appropriately. But it is the same BS that the less ltierate premies always have posted here.

Rob, when I was a premie, if I had read my journey, I would have been appalled. I would have started crying. I would have felt that someone was saying in the future I was to become the devil incarnate. I truly felt that my future was, in language of the time, at his lotus feet.

But what I really did was START listening to my heart and my own logical mind. It is obvious in a myriad of ways that the Guru is a fraud. You tell us to listen to our hearts. Listen to yours.
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 21:27:58 (EDT)
From: Curly
Email: None
To: Rob
Subject: Maharaji? Just say Moe.
Message:
Jeez Rob!
If you are a spokesperson or PR man for the cult, you are screwing up.
During my aspirant process Belkis seemed to me like a psychological gangster.
These tactics were what pissed me and turned me off to the cult.

Now you confirm that any preconceptions I've had were true.

Thanks
Curly
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 21:43:39 (EDT)
From: Marianne
Email: None
To: Curly
Subject: Maharaji or Stooges?
Message:
Hey Curly! How are you? I spent yesterday with my husband's family in Sonoma. In the family place, they have a poster of the Stooges that says, 'Golf with your friends!' It reminded me of you! I wondered what you would think about Rob's comments. Are you glad that you didn't subject yourself to further humiliation?

BTW, I just watched a video made by PBS in 1974 called 'Lord of the Universe'. It's about the Millennium festival in Houston and the preparations leading up to it. It also has M giving satsang (do you know what that is?) in Houston at the Astrodome, all about some kid with a comic book. My husband, native San Franciscan, met me years after I quit the cult, said that we made him out to be a 'deity', but, he says, 'he didn't do anything!' I cringed my way through it. I was involved during all this time.

How was your 4th?
Marianne Moe
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 22:28:55 (EDT)
From: Curly
Email: None
To: Marianne
Subject: Maharaji or Stooges?
Message:
Hey Marianne:
Not only have I seen the poster but actually have one hanging in my den with a cut out picture of my face pasted on top of you know who's.
Anyway, I sort of kept out of the forum for a while. This whole banning thing bothered me a bit.

Still, I like this forum and the people in it.
I made a small post on the sheep channel, just because I found the concept so amusing. Baaah!

Regarding Rob's post, I can only say that is the ugliest post I've seen on this forum so far.

So the question arises, Maharaji or Stooges?
Let's compare.

Weight: (Maj)250lbs(aprox) (Stoo) 600 (aprox) Stooges win.

fave phrase: (Maj)inside of you! (Stoo)You knucklehead! Stooges win

Net income: (Maj)$10,000,000/yr minimium (Stoo)60,000/yr/each(contract w/ Columbia) Maharaji wins

Academy Awards: (Maj)No (Stoo)Yes(Men in Black 1941) Stooges win

Brought happyness
to the world?: (Maj) Doubtful (Stoo)Absolutely! Stooges win

So far it's 4 to 1 in favor of the Stooges. If anyone wants to add any more categories and scores, go ahead.
I would continue but I quit smoking three days ago so I'm getting impatient fast.
Cheers,
Curly
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 22:42:58 (EDT)
From: Marianne
Email: None
To: Curly
Subject: Stooges absolutely
Message:
Curly: Your levity is always a breath of fresh air. I'd say Stooges by a mile!
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 23:14:39 (EDT)
From: Marianne
Email: None
To: Rob
Subject: Journey's End
Message:
Rob: I have read your post to Anth over and over today. Let's put aisde whatever cartoon image you have of me as a contrary ex. I am a real person who devoted my life to Guru Maharaj Ji and lived in an ashram. I loved him and believed he was God, because that is exactly what we were told back then. You weren't there to hear it, so don't argue with me about it. I saw Guru Maharaj Ji get pied in Detroit. I know personally what happened afterwards. You don't.

Your words to Anth are vicious and unkind. They contain all the guilt trips and judgments that we ex's fought to escape. Anth and his wife gave a substantial part of their lives in devotion to Maharaj Ji and you have treated them with total disdain. You lack warmth. You lack compassion. You lack understanding. I think you are on the Forum to engage in another Guru game, and your post to Anth confirms it. Maharaj Ji didn't care about what Anth and his wife gave to his children and neither do you, by the contents of your post. Premies are disposable --- always have been, always will be. So are you, unless you have vast sums of money at your disposal. What happened to that supposed soul searching you told me you were doing? Just another lila, huh?

I see your agenda, whether you do or not. I do not hate Maharaj Ji. I hate duplicity. You are perpetrating duplicity on the participants in this Forum. Take your game back to Malibu or your lap dancing club.

I have a life, by the way. I have premie friends too! SURPRISE! Toy with your lap dancers, not us.
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 00:37:56 (EDT)
From: Rob
Email: None
To: Marianne
Subject: Endless Journeys
Message:
I am a real person who devoted my life to Guru Maharaj Ji

Excuse me, 1972 - 1975, three years, is not devoting your life. You're leading the battle charge here and yet you barely got your feet wet.

Your experiences, however bad they may seem to you now, gave your career as a lawyer a good start. Now you are successful, with your own practice. On the board of directors of Women Defenders, no less.

Yet here you are, nearly 25 years later, still carrying so much animosity inside you that you are using your legal skills in this unspoken, but quite obvious, campaign against Maharaji and Elan Vital. Do I need to include some of your previous posts here to back this up? No, I thought not.

You accuse me of being vicious and unkind. Well I'm sorry, but you and some of your associates are trying to hurt the one person who means everything to me, so expect a little flak back, OK?

I mean, it's one thing to let off steam on the Forum, no-one really gets hurt by it, not even Anth, but taking action in the public domain (Channel 4, Manchester Evening News, Daily Mail...ring any bells?) puts a whole new perspective on things.

Now you happily announce that you're going to waltz into the event in Manchester, arm-in-arm with Anth? Can you understand why I'm upset? Maybe I don't have warmth, compassion, understanding...but do you, in this respect at least?

Look, I read Anth's Journey, as he asked me to, and I got mad, OK. I knew him back then, envied his position from afar as it were, and his Journey was just not an honest account of how he felt then. I used to listen to him talk about it, describing his Journey as it was happening.

While we're on the subject, you are the only one to bring Anth's wife into the conversation. I deliberately avoided doing that, because I don't think it's fair on her. So how did I treat his wife with disdain?

I think I've shown a considerable amount of understanding and civility so far, humour even, but Marianne I am human too, you know, I do have buttons that can be pushed that make me cranky.

So long as all we're doing is bantering on the Forum, we can all take pot shots at each other, kiss-and-make up, have a laugh, log-off and get on with life. Carry the fight over into the real world and it's a whole other ball of wax.

Anyway, this is in danger of getting out of hand, so I'm going to take a voluntary 48 hours time-out, give the thread time to shuffle down and tempers to abate. After all, this is your turf, not mine and I've probably overstepped the line.

Good luck getting into Manchester, by the way. Oh, they don't know what you look like, do they? Hmmmm..know what a Form INF 70-D/2 is?
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 01:16:04 (EDT)
From: Associates
Email: None
To: Rob
Subject: Endless Journeys
Message:
Carry the fight over into the real world and it's a whole other ball of wax.

Good luck getting into Manchester, by the way. Oh, they don't know what you look like, do they? Hmmmm..know what a Form INF 70-D/2 is?
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Do you know what truth is?

Is there anything that, 'M', likes or thinks or does not like or has said that you are against, hmmmm, nothing? Hmmmm............

So are you looking foward to death?

Are you able to go off to the jungle and live there for 25 years, with out contact with, 'M'? No? Why not? You are not allowed?

O, you can, but you do not WANT to, and you want to do what he wants you to do as in the game of Knowledge Reviews, where you are updated on the PROPPER way to do what they/M wants you,,,,HAVE a Jai Sat Chitananda, and YES YES YES, THE most beautiful is wraped up in this Worship/GOD type thing, and DEEEEEEEEEP down, I hope that you realise that. 'LOVE'. Best word I can think of at the moment my fellow Creature....................Love
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 01:43:04 (EDT)
From: Mw
Email: None
To: Rob
Subject: Wow
Message:
AJW, Marianne, KB, and Catweasel you sure do pissed a lot.... I know I know they deserve it.

Have a nice meditation.

Wm
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 03:05:50 (EDT)
From: Catweasel
Email: None
To: Mw
Subject: Wow
Message:
Did'nt piss me,just got me interested.Personally, I think making a career out of what you've disliked in your life is pretty weird.
And there is'nt a polarisation of attitude here.I think I'd have to agree that Mariannes planned actions are just plain ignorant and rude.
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 05:15:46 (EDT)
From: is pretty weird, IS IS, ?
Email: None
To: Catweasel
Subject: Wow
Message:
'Did'nt piss me,just got me interested.Personally, I think making a career out of what you've disliked in your life is pretty weird.
And there is'nt a polarisation of attitude here.I think I'd have to agree that Mariannes planned actions are just plain ignorant and rude.'

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Very Wonderfully asked question. ''Did'nt piss me,', Hmmm Your asking for piss or need to use the shit box. Hahahahaha.

Now, the next part, when put through the langue computer and it seems that it comes out nile.

Do you like Puppies?

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Now that I have everyones attention: In answer to the question above; I agree with you, that one would not want, 'to making a career out of what you've disliked in your life is pretty weird.'

Da, Hello, For certain! Now, with a little twist, If one wanted to make a liveing at what one loves to do for a life, yes no we see the light, The story is about makeing LOVE, and it is all about we/I/you, how we/I/you, do it or not, the line comes to me, Go towards the light.

Go towards the light.
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 06:37:42 (EDT)
From: Catweasel
Email: Oh Wow
To: is pretty weird, IS IS, ?
Subject: So are you a spirit ?
Message:
;calling me like my long dead relatives.Come to the Light,come.
Yeah,it works for me,oh anonymous one.Try it using the voice of Butthead.I can picture you now,yes ;this is art;this is beauty.
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 22:57:47 (EDT)
From: long dead relatives
Email: None
To: a weasel
Subject: So are you a spirit ?
Message:
Da - What a dolt you are.
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 08:19:41 (EDT)
From: cp
Email: None
To: Marianne
Subject: Rob the Hobbnobber
Message:
Watch this Rob. I am glad that you are wise to his agenda.
'excuse me and 'I thought not' ...what an arrogant twerp.

What I dont get is , if Mudlarky is everything to him, then he must regard him as some sort of a divine something incarnate. If so, what is he so worried about that he thinks he needs to ride shotgun on the forum to smile pleasantly and get underfoot.

He is overly concerned about his credibility and his 'mission impossible'

Reread his last paragraph Marianne. This guy is playing a phoney self-inflatable game.
He deserves a Lord of the Universe Badge.

He wants information, and he wants it bad.
Give him something to keep him busy.
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 12:34:52 (EDT)
From: Gerry
Email: None
To: Rob
Subject: They're running scared
Message:
I mean, it's one thing to let off steam on the Forum, no-one really gets hurt by it, not even Anth, but taking action in the public domain (Channel 4, Manchester Evening News, Daily Mail...ring any bells?) puts a whole new perspective on things.

Yes this frightens and angers the cult. We really do need a good press release to give to all the media in any city where the fraud attempts a ''program.'' This is hitting them were it hurts--in the wallet. No more aspirants, donations fall way off, given the natural attrition of existing cult members and the tailing off of new victims because of the ensuing bad publicity.
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 17:25:09 (EDT)
From: AJW
Email: None
To: Gerry
Subject: Channel 4
Message:
hi Gerry,

I wonder what their problem is. The TV programme is simply reporting what went on. Syd was interviewed, I loaned them a poster. Suddenly we're 'hurting people' and 'taking action in the public domain'.

Talk about a storm in a teacup.

Earth calling Rob. Earth calling Rob. Come in please.

Anth the Evil Anti-cult Activist.
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 17:39:20 (EDT)
From: Marianne
Email: None
To: AJW
Subject: Channel 4
Message:
Jeez Anth. I guess the two of us going arm in arm to the Event was just too much for them to take, eh?
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 16:23:37 (EDT)
From: JW
Email: None
To: Rob
Subject: Endless Nonsense
Message:
Rob,

You still haven't answered my very simple question down below. Is it because you can't, don't want to, or what? You first came here saying Big M didn't want premies participating here. You have extolled us and the premies to believe the veracity of that statement. And yet here you are, participating. This really undermines your credibility, Rob. I mean, why should anyone believe anything you say when you won't explain yourself. Please answer the simple question. Did you or did you not get direction that Maharaji doesn't want premies participating here, and, if so, why are you?

You accuse me of being vicious and unkind. Well I'm sorry, but you and some of your associates are trying to hurt the one person who means everything to me, so expect a little flak back, OK?

Well, okay. But M has been given every opportunity to explain himself, to answer his critics, and all the rest, and he has chosen to ignore them. Instead he has people like you, who, instead of providing any explanation, just attacks. Yes, that is pretty vicious, because you have no way of knowing what someone else is experiencing, feels or knows. (Some) premies act like they know that stuff, but they don't. It's nothing but grandstanding. Come on, Rob. I know premies who aren't as hateful as you. They are willing to admit that knowledge doesn't work for everyone and that Maharaji has done a lot of stupid and harmful things. For some reason you haven't reached their level of humanity yet.

Look, I read Anth's Journey, as he asked me to, and I got mad, OK. I knew him back then, envied his position from afar as it were, and his Journey was just not an honest account of how he felt then.

How on EARTH do you know what Anth felt, ever? Are you omniscient? I mean, you sound like you have an inflated image or your own self importance, but that's ridiculous. And even if Anth WAS happy then, what does that prove? Nothing. You can be very happy and very deluded, it happens all the time.

As far as getting into a program, we have already heard from Gail that M's supposed open door policy is history. I guess he has too much to hide, is just vindictive, or is just writing people off.
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 06:57:39 (EDT)
From: AJW
Email: None
To: Rob
Subject: Journey's End
Message:
Hi Rob,

I’ve got about 3 unfinished novels kicking around.

You said you wish you print out what I said in the old days, when I used to get up and inspire everyone.
`
That was in the days when Maharaji said he was going to establish Peace on Earth, guns would no more and lambs would get laid by lions. I believed it all and took it seriously. Only it all fizzled out and we don’t talk about it any more. So what happened Rob. Do you still believe the ‘Peace Bomb’ satsang, or did he get it wrong?

You say Iwas genuinely happy then. I was, genuinely, beleiving I was a disciple of the living Lord, helping him to spread the knowledge of god to the blind and ignorant. I had a mission and a fanatical glint in my eye. But you’re right, I was happy.

And guess what Rob, I’m still happy, in fact deeply genuinely happy.

I never said I escaped from ‘the most horrendous brainwashing cult ever’, I think it’s more a half arsed Mickey Mouse type organisation.

You mention sour grapes. Well, I Rob, I ate the grapes for 25 years, and I should know what they taste like by now. They’re not sour, there’s nothing there.

You say ‘I couldn’t handle the changes that began to happen. ‘ What changes are these Rob. I guess you mean the new initiative that’s been happening every few months since 1971, where everyone says, ‘Maharaji is really getting it together now. Everything is going to be different.’ After hearing this a few dozen times, you realise nothing ever changes. It’s still the same old dwindling cult that lost its way a long time ago.

So, after all these years, the boat’s finally moving eh Rob? Where’s it off to? The Kingdom of Heaven? And all us exes are left on the shore, crying on the day of judgment because, like Judas Iscariot, we blew it right? I don’t want to be facetious here Rob, but what do you mean about this boat stuff?

You said, ‘What now. You’re trying to put as much effort into trying to discredit Maharaji as I did trying to serve him. Hey Rob, I’m not, and never have, tried to discredit him. I criticise the role that has been laid on him (Lord of the Universe), but if you read my posts, you’ll see that I consider Maharaji as much a victim of the cult as anyone else. I really don’t have anything against him personally, and I haven’t, and don’t intend to make any personal attacks on him. I don’t think he’s a con man. I believe I described him once as a ‘rich fat bloke’. Big deal, he is.

Lots of premies think I’m putting ‘Anti-Maharaji’ stuff on the Forum, but I’m not. I’m just telling it how I see it. I criticise his roll, his organisation and the way his followers behave, but personally, the only feelings I have towards him are that I feel a bit sorry for him. He’s had this trip laid on him since he was tiny.

Your last two paragraphs indicate, despite of my above post, that you seem to think I’d still want to go to a programme. You say you don’t have any influence in that area, but I do. Glen is a friend of mine, and we continue to communicate. If I really wanted to go to a programme, I’d give him a call and check if it was ok. I’m sure he’d say something like, ‘If you come with an open mind, fine. But if you intend to come to cause any disruption, or as a reporter for the Forum, then, for obvious reasons, you can’t come.

As I said above, the only reason I’d go would be to write a report for the Forum, and as this would exclude me, I wouldn’t embarrass Glen, or anyone else (including myself) by trying to get in where I’m not wanted.

But Rob, if you, or any other premie, goes, I’d challenge you to post anything meaningful, profound, insightful or wise that Maharaji says, other than ‘Do the techniques, listen to me and do what I say’. My conclusion is he waffles, doesn’t make a lot of sense, never comes to a conclusion or gets to the point.

Rob, one of the characteristics of being a member of a religious cult, is that you believe only you and your fellow members know the truth. Everyone else in the world is blind. Is this how you see it?

And finally Rob, how can you turn your back on something that is inside you?

Anth the Magnanimous.
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 12:31:11 (EDT)
From: g's mom
Email: None
To: AJW
Subject: Anth the incredible
Message:
Beautifully said.
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 16:08:48 (EDT)
From: VP
Email: None
To: AJW
Subject: Geez, Anth!
Message:
I just had dinner with my premie wife, who informed me that Maharaji is holding a cult meeting in Manchester on Saturday.

She's going. I'll be in Brussels at the weekend.


That must be hard on you, Anth. My heart goes out to you, man.
VP
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 16:33:03 (EDT)
From: Marianne
Email: None
To: Anth
Subject: Wow, Anth!
Message:
Anth: What a screed from Rob! What did you do to deserve that? I'm glad you can't attend the event with me, because then I wouldn't get in!
Marianne
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 18:38:36 (EDT)
From: barney 47
Email: paranoid@area54.com
To: Marianne
Subject: Operation Black Galoshes
Message:
I didn't even read all of Rob's thing to AJW, but it sounds like it's right out of the manual from Operation Black Galoshes. I wonder if they are using advanced computer technology to gen that stuff.
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 19:16:28 (EDT)
From: Mw
Email: None
To: aww come on!
Subject: Operation Black Galoshes
Message:
you may be getting a little to silly, so punch me, I am afraid when you get serious it may come as an explosion.

and I wish someone else, you know, would do this

concerned
Mw
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 20:24:16 (EDT)
From: Marianne
Email: None
To: barney 47
Subject: Operation Black Galoshes
Message:
Barney: You ought to read the whole post to anth from Rob. Rob's smiley face veneer has disappeared and he got downright nasty and accusatory towards Anth, the 'fallen premie'. Big guilt trip in that post. Is Rob part of Operation Black Galoshes? I have not yet decided. I am still wondering if Rob is actually Maharaji.

If Rob is not Maharaji, it seems to me that Rob has been assigned to read the Forum and report on its contents and the identity of those who post to the 'General'. Rob's presence here, and his comments, are at Maharaji's instruction, make no mistake about it. He has told us he is here with 'guidelines' and that he is 'helping' with some task he refused to disclose when asked to do so by Know It All. Ex's beware: the Game, as Sherlock would say, is afoot. But, as we have all learned as a result of our involvement with Maharaji, the rules are his to make and we lesser mortals will remain clueless --- unless we have access to M, like dear old Rob.
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 21:55:07 (EDT)
From: Mw
Email: None
To: Marianne
Subject: ummm ....interesting
Message:
Rob maybe Maharaji? re-reading some of his posts, 'naw can't be', but if this is true it puts me in a state of mind like that horse in The Ren and Stimpy Show....'No Sir... ... I don't think I like it'.

Wm
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 22:18:48 (EDT)
From: Marianne
Email: None
To: Mw
Subject: ummm ....interesting
Message:
Wm: Who knows if Rob is Maharaji -- it's a brain teaser, isn't it? Rob won't communicate with me.
As for Ren and Stimpy and Maharaji --- I like it. It reminds me of when they were extolling the virtues of a month old unemptied cat box. MMMMMMMMMM.............
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 12:17:08 (EDT)
From: AJW
Email: None
To: Marianne
Subject: Ren & Stimpy
Message:
Hi Marianne,

did you see the one where Stimpy kept staring at his navel and eventually disappeared into it. He turned himself inside out.

Inside was 60s pyschedelic land. Outside he was a little round ball of inside out navel.

Ren popped him into his mouth and ate him.

Brilliant.

Anth the navel contemplator.
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 17:33:00 (EDT)
From: Magi
Email: None
To: barney 47
Subject: Operation Black Galoshes
Message:
Barney,

Why don't you tell us what you DO KNOW about Rob?

You're not bound by the webmaster code of silence now. Or are you bound by Rob's code of silence?

Tell us about his system, isp, what have you!

{Silence} .... oh well. Where did I ever get the idea that there are men with some balls on this forum? Barney hides, Rob hides.... rawat hides....

You and Rob should come back here when you're both willing to take it like a man. What a joke!

Magi
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 18:46:53 (EDT)
From: Code of Silence barney
Email: None
To: Magi
Subject: I can say this
Message:
Actually, it is no longer Operation Black Galoshes. They decided to change it to Operation Rubbers. Then some wise guy decided to call it Operation Jimmy-Hat or was it Jimmy-Cap? Anyway, they wanted to pop a cap up our asses and they have.

Honestly, I don't know that much about Rob. I'm hoping that he sends me that picture of him lap dancing while he's wearing one of those plaid catholic girl skirts. Yeah, baby!

Technically, I wouldn't be breaking my vow of webmaster silence or violating the NDA I signed because it was already posted that Rob uses the Anonymizer which conceals his IP address. He's a crafty guy. Is he who he says he is or a very clever con? I really don't know, but I'm leaning towards him being an sanctioned agent for the Dark Force on Anacapa View Drive.
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 22:01:52 (EDT)
From: Magi
Email: None
To: Code of Silence barney
Subject: I can say this
Message:
Kudos Barney!

What was that software? Turing.... that's right and the International Bowel Movement people have an office in Boca Raton.... just musing.

A+ friend.

Magi
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 12:57:32 (EDT)
From: AJW
Email: None
To: Marianne
Subject: What a drag.
Message:
Hi Marianne,

Because my face is so well known here, I've decided that if I do attend another lecture and slide show, I'll disguise myself and go in drag.

In fact, the more I think about it, hmmmmmmmm, maybe I will cancel the trip to Brussels, buy myself a nice dress, get some make up...

Hmm, why bother going to Manchester.... just buy the dress and make-up.

Sorry Marianne gotta go out.

Antonia the Gender Bender.

(It's true what they say about British men).
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 03:02:13 (EDT)
From: barney
Email: None
To: Everyone
Subject: Variety bows to Scientology?
Message:
Hollywood gossip report Jeannette Wells has this article Did Variety bow to Scientologists?

Excerpts

***Variety magazine caved into pressure from The Church of Scientology and is killing an expose about the controversial religion, the author of the article is charging.

***DAN COX, a reporter with Variety for six years, spent six months researching and writing an in-depth look at Scientology’s use of celebrities in promoting the religion. Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman, John Travolta, Kirstie Alley, Lisa Marie Presley and Jenna Elfman are among the high-profile members of the unconventional church, which has a Celebrity Center in Los Angeles and even publishes a magazine called Celebrity.

***While writing it, Cox says he and Variety started getting calls, letters, and visits from people representing Scientology, warning Cox and Variety Editor Peter Bart against publishing certain things.

Cox says he came up with startling new information, including, for example, an early document from the church, listing the specific celebrities that it was going to try to recruit.

***“The most mail Daily Variety has received this year about a single article has come in response to a story that the newspaper will never run,” [Variety Editor Peter Bart]

End Excerpts

What a cool plan! Get all the cool movie stars. Who does Maharaji have? Some guy who's last name is a kind of seaweed?

Anybody ever see the Scientology Building in L.A. on, what is it, Sunset Blvd.? The word Scientology is spelled out in huge letters vertically. They aren't hiding anything!

Travolta is a pilot of his own jet. Wonder if the Boss and John get together for debriefings.

It would seem by comparison that we are dealing with a pussycat, Maharaji. Heck, we even welcome and would gladly share a pint with a guy like Rob who wears a skirt to lap dancing contests, whatever that is.

And Rob is in charge of Operation Black Galoshes.
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 03:59:36 (EDT)
From: Polly
Email: None
To: barney
Subject: Variety bows to Scientology?
Message:
And Rob is in charge of Operation Black Galoshes.

Excerpts

***Variety magazine caved into pressure from The Church of Scientology

I see nothing here? Maybe the Cyrptic; And Rob is in charge of Operation Black Galoshes.

? Operation Black Galoshes - hmmmm? Here we go again???????
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 04:55:17 (EDT)
From: barney
Email: None
To: Polly
Subject: Yes, like rubber boots
Message:
Just A Joke, Okay?, Inc. - JAJO, Inc. © 1999 and all perpetuity - All Rights Reserved

Black Galoshes, exactly! Deep down in the Wild Web Watch Command Bunker (WWW-CB) in Agoura Hills (AHs) they are watching us. (Well, ok, maybe they're just watching me as they have been ever since I was an extra in the movie Arlington. In fact, their code name for the Forum is the Shit Farm as you might have seen recently. The purpose of the WWW-CB is to ensure that no shit gets on the lotus feet of the master to spoil a grateful premie's darshan experience whenever that event might happen.

What can I tell ya? It's a mad, mad, mad, mad world. It's late and I'm confused as to which liquor I should drink - Jack Daniels, Gentleman Jack, Single Malt Scotch, Irish Whiskey, Old Rot Gut, or fortified wine - so, unable to decide I'm drinking them all.

I'm listening to Art Bell and a show on animal mutilation by space aliens crawling through time portals. The Fourth of July was a bust for me when I was trying to drive home in the traffic snarl. I'm smoking a nice cigar and the ash falls off into my shirt pocket and ignites a pack of Black Cat firecrackers. I nearly have a heart attack, my Versace shirt is blown to bits, my gold chain is discolored, and I bump my BMW into a VW Jetta with a bunch of uncouth drunken frat boys who bust off my side mirrors and leave.
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 05:39:40 (EDT)
From: Polly
Email: None
To: barney
Subject: Yes, like rubber boots
Message:
'bust off my side mirrors '

Hmmm, cosmic, reminds me of one time when Rajja Ji was driveing away in a fancy convertable and as he was driveing away he was watching me, from a rear view mirror.

Maybe its a sign that you should not look back?
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Date: Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 19:59:40 (EDT)
From: Liz
Email: None
To: Everyone
Subject: The Castle (ot)
Message:
I recommend that everyone go and see this movie - The Castle if you all want a good laugh. If you like Anth's sense of humour I think you will like this movie.

Love,

Liz
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 13:34:09 (EDT)
From: Anth's Wife
Email: None
To: Liz
Subject: The Castle (ot)
Message:
Liz,

whoever you are. Anth doesn't have a sense of humour. He's a sick person in need of professional help.

Mrs Ginn
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Date: Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 19:54:38 (EDT)
From: Liz
Email: None
To: Everyone
Subject: World's End (ot)
Message:
Nostradamus predicted that the world will end today.

Bye-Bye.

Love,

Liz
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Date: Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 20:15:11 (EDT)
From: Sir Dave
Email: david.studio57@btinternet.com
To: Liz
Subject: World's End is a misprint
Message:
I mentioned this on my ANYTHING GOES forum. In reality, Nostradamus didn't make any such prediction and many of his supposed predictions are just mis-translations.

For instance, many people pick up on his word 'hister' and think he was talking about the rise of Adolph Hitler. Far from it because the word 'hister' was another word for the River Danube in old French at that time.

Regarding the end of the World prophesy; from memory I vaugely remember the original word in old French is 'lefrait' which was later written with an apostrophe as 'le Frait' which means something like the King of Terror.

The trouble is, there is no apostophe in the word in Nostadamus's original poem and the word 'lefrait' means something very ordinary like 'one who receives money' or something. So the misplaced apostophe has caused an awful lot of bother over nothing.

(I may have the spelling wrong above since the actual written info isn't to hand at present.)
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 05:41:12 (EDT)
From: Mel Bourne
Email: mbvictoria@hotmail.com
To: Sir Dave
Subject: World's End..or just WW3
Message:
Hi Sir Dave

I thought that this prediction for July 1999 was supposed to be the start of WW3, which is supposed to run for 27 years. I've also read somewhere that Nostradamus used the Julian calender for his time lines and the world then converted to the Gregorian calender offsetting his predictions by a couple of months or so (ie the new dates are in September 1999).

I may have got this the wrong way around, but there are probably a few Nostradamus buffs out there who should be able to clarify the matter.

Regards

Mel
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 08:01:53 (EDT)
From: Sir Dave
Email: None
To: Mel Bourne
Subject: World's End..or just WW3
Message:
The bit about the date changing is correct and you can add a couple of months on. The problem is there are so many supposed Nostradamus buffs around who claim to have translated his predictions. But you would have to be a scholar in old French to understand what Nostradamus was on about.

I saw one such scholar talking on TV the other night. He went over all the famous predictions and showed that the original old French had been translated incorrectly, just to suit the occasion.

That said, there's people the world over who are convinced that the world is going to end this year and have prepared for it. I mean, how do you prepare for that!

The silliest thing of all is here in England where you can put a bet on that the world will end this year. Now if it DOES end, how are you gonna collect your winnings?
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Date: Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 14:02:13 (EDT)
From: Stevei
Email: None
To: Liz
Subject: World's End/Gandalf Garden
Message:
Anyone remembers Gandalf's Garden at World End in Kings Road Chelsea......(not a joke...)
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Date: Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 23:09:49 (EDT)
From: Lizzie
Email: None
To: Stevei
Subject: World's End/Gandalf Garden
Message:
Hi Stevei,

Yes I remember Gandalf's Garden and Granny takes a Trip. I designed clothes for Granny when she became The Sex Shop.

Lizzie The Mod turned Hippie turned Punk turned Premie turned Ex. (aka. Dedicated Follower of Fashion.)
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Date: Thurs, Jul 08, 1999 at 05:53:45 (EDT)
From: Stevei
Email: None
To: Lizzie
Subject: Grany's Or??
Message:
Lizzie...you were also a Mod....wow..you must be an aging grany by now...Mods and Rockers...were you also fighting it out on th Brighton promanade with chains...

Gandalf's was a great trip...pre-premie days...nice place run by two hippies..

Did yu actually design for Grany's or the Sex Shop..I think some clarification is required here..different styles..dont you think???
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Date: Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 09:26:57 (EDT)
From: Brian
Email: brian@ex-premie.org
To: Everyone
Subject: New Journeys entry
Message:
'Lalita in SF' sent in her Journeys entry today. It was a nice thing to wake to, and it's made my day. Thanks, Lalita.

With all the arguments that can take us away from our initial purposes for participation on this site, it's sobering to go back every now and then and remember what we first brought to share.
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Date: Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 22:54:33 (EDT)
From: Helen
Email: None
To: Brian
Subject: New Journeys entry
Message:
Great journey entry, Lalita. You sound so sane. Congratulations for figuring it out.
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 13:40:45 (EDT)
From: AJW
Email: None
To: Lalita
Subject: New Journeys entry
Message:
Hi Lalita,

I really enjoyed reading your Journey. Thanks for writing it. I really wanted to look over your shoulder when you were doing the accounts, and draw a pie chart of where all the money was going.

We both got 'knowledge' around the same time. You jumped ship about 20 years before I did, but, like the Queen Mary in Longbeach, it's never going anywhere, so it's not too far to the shore.

Anth the...these currents... help... glug glug glug.
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 14:45:55 (EDT)
From: Marianne
Email: None
To: Lalita
Subject: New Journeys entry
Message:
Lalita: Seems our paths might have crossed somewhere along the way. Your descriptions of the land mines often found in premie relationships was painful to read. The mileu in which we operated gave us confusing and inhuman cues about how to behave towards people we loved, whether they were lovers, friends or family. We weren't supposed to fall in love with each other, especially if we were in the ashram, or if the object of our affection was an ashram resident. OF course, at the same time, nothing stopped M and his family from engaging in these pursuits. It was, and is, hypocrisy, pure and simple.

I find it fascinating that you became a cultural anthropologist. I'm interested to hear your professional opinion of the cult, if you want to tell us.

Thank you for sharing your Journey with us.

Marianne
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 21:24:31 (EDT)
From: Lalita
Email: None
To: AJW
Subject: New Journeys entry
Message:
This is actually to AJW, Brian, Helen and Marianne...

Thank you for your comments. Ends up Marianne and I are old friends who've been out of touch for, gulp, about 24 years (are we really that old ?) ...so I think there is much value to posting my journey...

I remember a workshop some years ago with an alternative healer who said that you are only able to envision a future to the extent that you are able to truly see and honor your past. In that spirit, I thank you again for your feedback and will drop in to visit now and then
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Date: Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 08:44:54 (EDT)
From: Catweasel
Email: None
To: Everyone
Subject: Time Flies
Message:
Rob , Katie was correct; I had better things to do. I didnt make any statements as to M, you're the one doing that.Can you seriously expect answers to that drivel below? By inference,you seem to think all that 'stuff' you mention below validates your importance and authority.Rob, you're no different to me ;anonymous and uninformed .What I was asking you to do was validate earlier posts you had made, and prove your omnipotence;CONTACT ME!
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Date: Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 15:20:23 (EDT)
From: Rob
Email: None
To: Catweasel
Subject: Time Flies
Message:
I'll see you in Amaroo next July, I'll be working there for a couple of weeks. I'm not hard to spot. Big ugly guy with a beard, maybe wear my kilt, depends on the mozzies. We'll have a schooner or two off campus.
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Date: Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 16:04:32 (EDT)
From: KB
Email: None
To: Rob
Subject: Premie Flies
Message:
Why would you need beer?
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Date: Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 20:17:53 (EDT)
From: Rob
Email: None
To: KB
Subject: Premie Files
Message:
Nothing like a couple of Tooheys to lubricate the larynx while yer having a chat, mate.
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Date: Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 23:28:56 (EDT)
From: KB
Email: None
To: Rob
Subject: Foster and Toohey
Message:
So, have a couple and tell me what does someone that
thinks there is no god tell a 7 year old when they
are crying because they are worried that thier parents
are going to die and leave them alone someday.
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Date: Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 23:40:21 (EDT)
From: Rob
Email: None
To: KB
Subject: Child
Message:
If that is really a problem you or someone you know is facing right now, then I strongly advise you to seek help from a child psychologist or similar professional counsellor.

I can't give you advice as a father, because I am not someone that thinks there is no god.
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 00:01:54 (EDT)
From: KB
Email: None
To: Rob
Subject: 'oneness' right?
Message:
If you think that m is the master of life then
there is no god for you.

There is no one but m correct?
No one that is self concious and the lord correct?
Except m.
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 00:09:24 (EDT)
From: Rob
Email: None
To: KB
Subject: 'oneness' right?
Message:
I'd better answer quick before you have Brian block me! (Yeah, I visit 'the other site' too)

The views you expressed are not mine, and I'm not sure how you could arrive at that conclusion. But then, you've made it plain that you don't appreciate my views, so why should I waste my breathe?

BTW what was all that previous about the child crying?
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 00:21:20 (EDT)
From: KB
Email: None
To: Rob
Subject: 'oneness' right?
Message:
It is not your views that I have a problem with.
It is your attitude, which also affects your views.

Comon, answer the question about god,
is there a self aware god besides maharaji?
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 00:26:45 (EDT)
From: Rob
Email: None
To: KB
Subject: 'oneness' right?
Message:
Comon, answer the question about god,
is there a self aware god ....[besides maharaji]?
(My brackets)

Yes there is. And I separated the last 2 words because they would wrongly imply that I think Maharaji is (also) God.
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 01:01:43 (EDT)
From: KB
Email: None
To: Rob
Subject: 'oneness' right?
Message:
Well Rob, as part of your project here you probably
want to understand WHY some of the ones here left.

Because they are 'crackpots'? that are flame happy?
As you seemed to imply below.

What the case really is for most of us that hung in there
all these years is that prem rawat LIMITS us by being
in the way of us having our own relationship with life.
If there is a self-aware power that exists, prem
rawat sticks himself exactly in the way.
How does a premie have a relationship with god
when p rawat keeps poseing as the master of life with
all the words he kidnaps like 'grace, life, knower,
master, (kiss my feet), sing arti where you can
get away with it, talk ONLY about the living 'master'
and NEVER about any other possible reality.

Maybe you arent aware but to get knowlege, that instructor
that gives it, b..., says you cannot have any other
religion to get knowledge.
Check your sources.
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 01:26:18 (EDT)
From: Rob
Email: None
To: KB
Subject: 'oneness' right?
Message:
Because they are 'crackpots'? that are flame happy?
As you seemed to imply below.


KB = I really need to clarify this. I was not referring to ex-premies when I talked about 'crackpots' flaming, I had in mind that there are probably hundreds of people who are neither premies or ex's reading this site, just for entertainment value. What better invitation for mischief than to publish my email address or worse, my phone number.

No, I am sorry if that remark offended you, it wasn't directed at your peers.

As for the rest of your post, I'm sorry, but I'm not going to entertain and enrich your theories for the benefit of the viewing public. I can't begin to imagine how you got so confused over such a simple experience.
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 01:48:47 (EDT)
From: KB
Email: None
To: Rob
Subject: 'oneness' right?
Message:
Stop playing to some imagined audience.
They arent there.

You only fool your self when you imply it is just
your breath and what is there to be confused about that.
Why did it take two years of video watching for the irish
aspirant to get simple breath mind calming techniques?

It is because there is a whole dogma that goes with
m and you pretending it doesnt exist is not fooling anyone.

How can you skate over real things that impact your life
in a huge way and deny reality and imply that
I somehow got 'confused' over a simple thing.

You arent often going to get the help you can get here.
You can't see how much about life you are denying in
your quest to identify feeling the breath as the
only reality and all other considerations are
just 'confusion'.

AND, when was the last time you talked to this
GOD that is not m?
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 00:18:11 (EDT)
From: KB
Email: None
To: Rob
Subject: Child
Message:
Maybe you are not a father.
But I ask you, why not.

And the question about the child does
not need a trained professional.
Anyone that has an understanding of life and reality
would do a good job with it.

What did m say to his kids when the asked why
they never got to see grandma?
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 00:33:26 (EDT)
From: Rob
Email: None
To: KB
Subject: Child
Message:
Maybe you are not a father.
But I ask you, why not.


I am a father, however...

And the question about the child does
not need a trained professional.
Anyone that has an understanding of life and reality
would do a good job with it.


....perhaps, but I don't want to take responsibility for anything you might say to your child.

What did m say to his kids when the asked why
they never got to see grandma?


Well you were obviously there to hear the question, so you tell me what his answer was.
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 00:53:06 (EDT)
From: KB
Email: None
To: Rob
Subject: Child
Message:
An awful lot of single women I know deferred having
kids because of you know who's heavy anti family
comments. CD is in that boat.
That is why I asked you.
But it was a little too personal so I apologise.

As for 'grandma', what COULD he say? 'I got pissed at her
because she criticised my behaviour and I shunned her
for 17 years figureing she would come to her senses
and approach me first recognising I am the master of life
but she went ahead and died first and then I realized
how much she meant to me.'

That about nails it right?
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Date: Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 17:04:49 (EDT)
From: Ross
Email: None
To: Rob
Subject: Brad something
Message:
You that guy that used to hang around Tiny in 1973? The name escapes me at the moment, oh yeah....... Brad. Don't know his last name, easy enough to find out. He was good ole boy, but I hated him, he did a nice mind fuck on me.
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Date: Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 20:16:11 (EDT)
From: Rob
Email: None
To: Ross
Subject: Brad something
Message:
No, I'm Rob, not Brad. I wasn't around in 73, got K in 76.
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Date: Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 20:34:18 (EDT)
From: Sir Dave
Email: None
To: Rob
Subject: A question before bedtime
Message:
Rob; in your own opinion, why do you think these guys who are called ex-premies are indeed that and are not following Maharaji any more?

Why do you think they stopped going to see him or listening to anything he said? Do you think they are misguided, ignorant, lost or just plain stupid. Why Rob, do people cease to follow Maharaji? What is your opinion on this. Why do you think they leave, never to return?
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Date: Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 23:24:35 (EDT)
From: KB
Email: None
To: Sir Dave
Subject: A question before bedtime
Message:
They dont return because they dont realize that
management has changed!
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 00:11:38 (EDT)
From: Liz
Email: None
To: Rob
Subject: A question before bedtime
Message:
I forgot one...... Enlighenment isn't following Maharaji around the globe and then forgetting every word he said because it was 'old hat.'
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 00:37:33 (EDT)
From: Rob
Email: None
To: Liz
Subject: A question before bedtime
Message:
Enlighenment isn't following Maharaji around the globe and then forgetting every word he said because it was 'old hat

I was just listening to 'Reynardine' on my CDROM drive and I thought of you & lo! you appeared.

So if that isn't 'it', what is enlightenment, for you?
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 01:01:14 (EDT)
From: Jerry
Email: None
To: Rob
Subject: A question before bedtime
Message:
There's no such thing as 'enlightenment', a state you achieve, never to be ignorant again. Every now and then, something occurs to you where you have a clarity you didn't have before. But 'enlightenment', a permanent state of consciousness only the wise can attain, is a pipe dream for suckers, like the ones Maharaji surrounds himself with.
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Date: Tues, Jul 06, 1999 at 01:34:15 (EDT)
From: Enlightenment
Email: E.S.P.
To: Jerry
Subject: A question before bedtime
Message:
There's no such thing as 'enlightenment', a state you achieve, never to be ignorant again. Every now and then, something occurs to you where you have a clarity you didn't have before. But 'enlightenment', a permanent state of consciousness only the wise can attain, is a pipe dream for suckers, like the ones Maharaji surrounds himself with.

______________Hopefully a Friend________________________________

If I may jump in, a Public Message and all, I feel that, 'Enlightenment', is not a state of being, as in a room, like maybe you think or not, whatever, I think of the word as a verb, meanning to have ones perception take a positive marked shif into the ability to perceive much better then befor of something or as in general.

Thank you for being there.
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 21:59:18 (EDT)
From: Lizzie
Email: None
To: Rob
Subject: A question before bedtime
Message:
I'm getting to like you. Isn't there a saying that if you can speak about or describe enlightenment it isn't it? Doesn't M poo-poo enlightenment or am I thinking of 'A Path'to....

Anyway at this particular time in my life I'm enjoying being myself and not beating myself up like I was for the last thirty years (minus the time of sanity that I was a Scientologist) I see the perfect and the imperfect and love them both. I am enjoying being more creative than I've been for thiry odd years.

I'm enjoying not having M loading up my mind with negativity. I'm enjoying the real world. I'm enjoying people without judging them. I'm liking myself a lot more hence the fact I can like others a lot more easily. I'm feeling the presence 'of what I call God or goodness' a lot more now I don't think it's taken on physical form.

I'm enjoying my family and being a part of my family instead of finding them an inconvenience that happened to be very convenient when I needed them to fork out money to go see M.

Well you did ask. Hope that gives you a little inkling of enlightenment as to where I'm 'at' these days.

Love,

Lizzie
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 15:13:32 (EDT)
From: Marianne
Email: None
To: Ross
Subject: Brad something
Message:
Ross: Where were you in 1973? Do you mean Brad who lived in Detroit and Kalamazoo? He was an old friend of mine. You aren't Ross who used to live in the San Francisco ashram, are you?
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 17:41:42 (EDT)
From: Ross
Email: None
To: Marianne
Subject: Brad something
Message:
Maybe I am being unfair to Brad, I only interacted with him during his boss days during the millennium preparations. I've seen him at programs with a beard and a kilt, but I could be wrong about the kilt. Actually a very good looking guy. Nope not from Frisco.
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 00:59:00 (EDT)
From: Wanderer
Email: None
To: Rob
Subject: HEY ROB...
Message:
Were you living in India in the early 80s? Did you want to start importing beragon's to the UK and got really pissed off when I told you that M said that beragons were out?
Or was that some other big ugly Scot who looked like a Sadhu(big hairstyle).

Just wondering
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 01:29:11 (EDT)
From: Rob
Email: None
To: Wanderer
Subject: HEY ROB...
Message:
That's funny.

No, we'll try the next caller....

Could have been Toby, perhaps?
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Date: Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 13:53:59 (EDT)
From: AJW
Email: None
To: Catweasel
Subject: Time Flies
Message:
Hiya Cat,

So you're slumming it again amongst us fallen ones.

Say hello to my old pal John Sheridan when you're in Amaroo. Is he still organising slave gangs to build an ampitheatre? John and his family lived with us for a year before he went down under.

So Cat, you up for a bit of chat?

Wocha doin over here? I'm still fresh out the cult, so it's very easy for me to put my old premie hat back on and wonder what I'd be doing on here if I was a premie.

Could you be a sort of cyber-guerilla fighter for your Lord. Obviously most of us here are beyond redemption, but who knows, you might be able to influence one soul or another along the way?

or

Could you be here because you like seeing your words in print, and knowing people are reading them. They're your words, exactly the way you wrote them. You are expressing yourself with the written word.

This is what I like about the Forum.

Anth the seductively argumentative.
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