Jim -:- ***HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MAHARAJI!*** -:- Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 22:10:44 (EST)

__ gerry -:- LOL, ****BEST OF***** too -:- Tues, Dec 11, 2001 at 11:50:45 (EST)

__ __ Cynthia -:- Re: LOL, ****BEST OF***** too -:- Tues, Dec 11, 2001 at 15:26:21 (EST)

__ Felix the >>> -:- This is very kind of you Jim -:- Tues, Dec 11, 2001 at 01:51:06 (EST)

__ __ Andrea Eriksonn -:- Absolutely! And don't forget these fine quotes... -:- Tues, Dec 11, 2001 at 20:22:29 (EST)

__ __ __ Dot Munchbutt -:- Absolutely BEST OF FORUM [nt] -:- Tues, Dec 11, 2001 at 22:58:28 (EST)

__ Barry -:- Birthdays are about respect I guess? -:- Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 23:08:59 (EST)

__ Jim -:- 'You never lie' -- choke, cough, sputter! -:- Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 22:20:35 (EST)

__ __ PatD -:- Different cultures -:- Tues, Dec 11, 2001 at 18:53:35 (EST)

__ __ __ PatC...but what would you have done -:- if dad told you he was greater than god?;) [nt] -:- Tues, Dec 11, 2001 at 23:01:12 (EST)

__ __ What style did LOTU affect -:- when singing for his cult stooges? -:- Tues, Dec 11, 2001 at 11:51:34 (EST)

__ __ __ Another Possibility -:- like a Hindu Tiny Tim [nt] -:- Tues, Dec 11, 2001 at 14:11:09 (EST)

__ __ Barry -:- I wonder? -:- Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 23:20:25 (EST)

Date: Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 22:10:44 (EST)
From: Jim
Email: None
To: All
Subject: ***HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MAHARAJI!***
Message:

ELK has a couple of reports about the Miami program. I was taking a look when I realized what day it was and how I didn't even buy him a card! Oh well ...

A celebration of life

Miami Beach, 8 December 2001

Thanks to Jo Robinson from the UK and Ivete Belfort Mattos from Brazil for these two reports:

From Jo:

Pink. Turquoise. White. Art Deco architecture – Miami! Here on the South Beach, the day starts sunny and warm, in contrast to the day before which was overcast and rainy. Walking down to the Miami Beach Conference Centre in the afternoon, we share happy conspiratorial glances with other people walking our way,

I was thinking about this, remembering all those 'happy conspiratorial glances' we used to share back when I was in the cult. But we were all young, thin, unwrinkled. Those glances were rife with the bemused, selfrighteous and downright happy vibe of a bunch of young people who knew they happened to be the first followers of the Lord of the Universe, come to save us all. What about now? How can these guys still get it up to smile at each other in ANY way, let alone with that 'Happy Conspiracy' feeling? I'd be embarrassed. In fact, probably the best thing about being a PAM, I imagine, is that you're considered too in, too sophisticated, too something to have to indulge in that Happy Conspiracy Glance shit. God that must get old!

Realising we have been sitting in the wrong seats, when their rightful owners come to claim them, we discover that we are, in fact, nearer to the front than we originally thought – a happy discovery.

Do the Jehovah's Witnesses worry about seating at that big picnic table you always see on the cover of The Watchtower? The one where they're all getting ready for the picnic to end all picnics, lions and lambs over there, a couple of Nigerians walking over here? This is premie heaven. Heaven on earth. But excuse me, sir, I believe you're in my seat.

This, however, prompts me to remember the first time I ever saw Maharaji at a big event. I sat right at the top, as far back and as far away as it was possible to be, whilst feeling that he was talking to me alone, and that we were the only people there.

Of course, Maharaji had no idea who you were, didn't give a damn and played you for decades ever since like Forrest Gump's stupid brother.

The following is just some of what I can remember Maharaji saying, and it's not necessarily in the order in which he said it. No doubt when I see a video or broadcast of this event, I'll wonder why I forgot so much of it, but I hope it gives you a little taste of what he said, with apologies for the paraphrasing.

How servile! Listen, friend, don't be so hard on yourself. You forgot so much of it because he's not saying anything AND it's the same not saying anything he's been doing for decades. What's to remember?

The event started at around 5:30 pm.

Maharaji came onto the stage, and motioning everyone to sit down, acknowledged the applause. Then Daya came onto a side stage, looking beautiful in a dress that looked as if it was covered in stars, and accompanied by a pianist proceeded to sing a jazz style song about letting the experience be real.

I really wonder what that gig is all about. Daya ... Dad ... all the Happy Clappers. Who's she anyway? Why should SHE get such prominence? I mean, either there's a magic gene in the Rawat clan or there isn't. If there isn't, then, well, this is sheer neoptism. I'm going to complain to the Council of Churches.

BEING PRACTICAL
Maharaji then started talking about how much we compromise, in the name of 'being practical'. He talked about the meeting with the aspirants the day before, and how he had told them that the next time they looked at a tree, to consider all that was right about it.

Hey, THAT's practical! Now you're talking!

Knowledge is not about good and bad, but just shows life as it is. Likewise, for the tree to grow, so many things were right – not right as in right and wrong, but right because the possibility could manifest.There are only two kinds of 'right' and the other one's spelled 'write'. So take your pick, guru. You use the word, you MEAN the word. And don't think you can just throw a wolly dumbass work like 'manifest' at it to make it do some kind of magic. That isn't on anymore.

The seed was good, in that it could grow, and everything that was needed for it to grow was there. Perhaps droughts and fires had come, but they weren't bad enough to kill the tree, and it could continue to grow.

To be able to look at life, simply like that, not the rights and wrongs, but just as it is, simple.
Yes? Finish the sentence, guru. How about 'To be able to look at life like that, not the rights and wrongs, but just as it is, simple, is nothing much really.'

He talked about how birds fly without the checklists that pilots need, and of how little baby birds stretch their tiny wings and try to fly. Even though they can't yet fly, they still make that effort, and he said that effort was a noble thing.

I'm sorry, but only a fool could still eat up this rank and shameless anthropomorphism. And yet it's been Maharaji's stock-in-trade all the time we've known him. 'Oh look, how the faithful computer key just lets you keep pounding and pounding. And each time it keeps jumping right back up. It never creeps off the keyboard. It doesn't hide behind other keys. And it sure as hell doesn't ask a lot of pesky questions! Be a little more like that key, will 'ya?'

IS IT POSSIBLE TO REMEMBER EVERY BREATH?
A recent question he particularly liked, he said, was 'Is it possible to remember every breath?'. And many people laughed when he said that he felt a lot of people were waiting for the answer.

But he wasn't saying yes, and he wasn't saying no! It was the effort that was important – to try to remember to make the effort.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but didn't he specifically resile from the 24/7 breath thing not so long ago?

Many people, he said try to solve all their problems. This was not a happening thing, he reminded us! We worry about the past, and there is something that all of us would like to go back to and put right – however trivial. We worry about what the future will bring, and we think that a possible solution is to not worry. But he came up with another solution.

Yes, yes, yes. I know the feeling. Sometimes I worry about all the people I tricked into thinking I was God and all the confusion that caused. Better just drop it, huh? Thanks for the advice.

The master he said, suggests not that you don't worry, because that's impossible, but that you worry about this moment, worry about this breath, rather than worrying about the past and the future.

In court today, I should have said something like that. 'M' Lord, if it's all the same to you, I must say, I'm not REALLY worried about that bit of evidence going in. No, sire, I'm actually a bit concerned about this breath, if you know what I mean. It's the moment, M'Lord. The moment.'

Simplicity is profound, and when the master is no longer there, people write books about what he said. Yet it is more profound when it's actually being said! It's easy to appreciate what you had, but harder to appreciate what you have.

Oh Maharaji, please don't ever leave us!!!!

FROM UNCERTAINTY TO CERTAINTY
What we have a lot of, is this breath, and if only we could truly appreciate that, we would recognise how much we have, that the fulfilment we want is inside us. He talked about how human beings all have that possibility of fulfilment. Someone who is thirsty in the desert, has thirst but it comes with an uncertainty about whether it can be fulfilled. But to know that the water is near changes that uncertainty. Just to know that, brings relief and hope.

Maharaji talked about a magazine article describing how society lacked kindness. Whilst acknowledging that kindness was desirable, he made the point that the lack of kindness was linked to the frustration that people feel, and the lack of happiness in their own lives. He used, as an example, asking young children to smile. If they feel a genuine reason to smile, they do, spontaneously. But if you ask them to smile, they grimace, or look very unnatural, with a 'cheesy grin' as if saying 'cheese' for a photographer! It's the same if you ask them to sleep – they don't just relax. Their eyes are fluttering, or they can't resist opening one eye!

The feeling has to be there before they can respond. Adults though, learn how to smile and have parties where all they do is try to be happy.

It was cute, I guess, when the young teenage Lord of the Universe mugged for us all, played the part of the cosmic Peter Pan, blowing out all the stuffiness and pretentions of age and responsibility. But this tired invocation of the mythical child is getting really, really old already. No?

He mentioned that flicking through the TV channels, he had seen a trailer for a Clint Eastwood movie. He then recalled the famous 'Make my day!' line. This, Maharaji said, wasn't a one-way conversation with his creator!

HAPPY EVER AFTER
The story of the master, Maharaji said is a very different. He gave the example of Cinderella, and said he had always had a hard time with it. He could just about go along with the pumpkin turning into a coach and the rats turning into coachmen, but he could never understand the slipper part. Why didn't the prince just look for Cinderella? The shoe could have fit someone else! The 'happy ever after' can be a reality for us, if we seek to be happy now, in this breath.

Just once I'd like to see someone get a chance to tear apart his stupid stories the way he does every one else's. God, Cinderella. Is nothing sacred?

He talked about the manifestation of grace in our lives. Yesterday he said that one of the aspirants had very sincerely said to him that they were grateful and felt grace in their life, and a manifestation of that was how other drivers let them into the flow of traffic when they were feeling that.

Maharaji explained that grace was in being given this breath, not in traffic nor in rainbows.

But how he must have smiled knowing that he'd created yet another cult member out of nothing but smoke and mirrors. This guy doesn't even have Knowledge yet. All he's got are some videos and already he thinks God's controlling traffic for him. Why, God didn't start doing that for me until I'd moved into the ashram.

SOMETHING WE ALREADY KNOW
The master doesn't introduce you to anything new, he said, rather he reunites you with something you already know. He talks about what is familiar, not strange. What is simple, yet profound.

After speaking for about an hour, Maharaji finished, and Daya came onto the side stage again and sang another beautiful jazz-style song about the 'elegance' of existence, Maharaji then left the stage and a short but moving video was played of him talking over still shots of various audiences.

Information on the screens told us the event would begin at 10:30 am. tomorrow, and the hall emptied.

The event continues!

From Ivete:

CELEBRATION OF LIFE

The event is a real celebration.

Maharaji talked about the true happiness of existence: the joy of being alive as well as the profound feeling of being thirsty and quenching that thirst.

I experienced the desire to really live every moment not just as I imagined, but aware of the precious life each breath brings.

Good girl, Ivette. You sound like a premie wind-up doll.

Once more Maharaji reinforced the simplicity of being alive.

The event itself is simple and full of kindness and beauty.

A pure demonstration of the clarity of love.

It is unique!


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Footnote: more cameras than of late were in evidence at the event - including one mounted on a track near the front of the hall. This could mean a change in the quality of broadcasts...

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Date: Tues, Dec 11, 2001 at 11:50:45 (EST)
From: gerry
Email: None
To: Jim
Subject: LOL, ****BEST OF***** too
Message:

Stingingly funny and incisive...

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Date: Tues, Dec 11, 2001 at 15:26:21 (EST)
From: Cynthia
Email: None
To: gerry
Subject: Re: LOL, ****BEST OF***** too
Message:

Jim,

That's hilarious. Really glad I'm out.

BTW, how's your hand?

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Date: Tues, Dec 11, 2001 at 01:51:06 (EST)
From: Felix the >>>
Email: None
To: Jim
Subject: This is very kind of you Jim
Message:

If we ignore your snorts ,gasps and sighs , we get a lovely personal description of the day from a sweet unaffected person. Thamks Jim. This is a great service you are providing here! Dont feel you have to comment. Relax and enjoy. And...have a nice day )}

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Date: Tues, Dec 11, 2001 at 20:22:29 (EST)
From: Andrea Eriksonn
Email: None
To: Felix the >>>
Subject: Absolutely! And don't forget these fine quotes...
Message:

... from the event:

'We should be to joy like the moth is to the light... we need to be addicted to clarity [and it's source, the Master]...we need to persevere like a river, which never takes a break or stops....in earnest, change our attention to what 'is.' Abandon our bad habit of paying attention to things [like F7 and ex-students] that are not good for us, and acquire the habit of appreciation...fall in love with simplicity, joy, peace, and tranquility.' [Fall in love with the Master, He is the key]

'Don't pay attention to the doubtmaker.'

'People ask, how do you know about God? God is a feeling and comes when everything else is removed.' [God comes when the smart cards filter out troublemakers, and donations have been collected and he can be reasonalby sure no one will ask any pesky questions. Poor Maharaji, it's so hard to be You-Know-Who!]

'When I was young, God was prevalent in the family. I wanted something simple. My father said: I can show you God. I felt that was something different.'[Nod, wink, knowing smile]

'There's this song - 'my boat is moving because of you.' Why do you jump out of the boat to the alligators of fear and anger and confusion? [F7 and ex-students] The reason is because of doubt.'[AND the people who indulge in it - DON'T talk to them, you're asking for trouble!]

NO ONE ELSE will tell you to pay attention to being alive and be grateful, not the Dali Lama or Mother Teresa or Nan Long Thach, whatever his name is, that Fake Teacher Budhist guy who thinks he has something to say because he forgives people who tortured him. Whatever. All those other Fake Teachers, they just steal some of Maharaji's best ideas. Which leads me to some of the other stuff Maharaji said:

'Put down your bag of burdens, and collect the precious.'

'Breathe every breath with meaning.'

'We don't have to borrow clarity or happiness. It's there. Clarity is there. Be attentive to peace and joy, and they will stay. Create a space so they can dance.'

'Don't pay attention to the doubtmaker.'

'Knowledge is for those who are free'

'Come because you want to.'

'Become familiar with that which lets you have feelings.'

'What about your breath? We say, I'm too busy. And then when the last one comes, we say: please, just one more, just one more.'

'Focus on the festival of breath while it is happening.'

'Heart is saying: quench me, fill the cup now.'

'The seed was sown on your farm, and it is best to practice Knowledge when you WANT to practice. Now you have the feast in your life!'

'The one thing we can have an insatiable appetite for is joy, it never gets boring.'

'Enjoy peace now. Take it with joy.'

I love it when he says nice stuff like that, but I don't like to over-emphasize it too much, because it sounds very similar to stuff all those Fake Teachers say. It just doesn't work when other people say that stuff, because they don't have the divine juju and correct lineage. When those Fake Teachers say stuff like this, it just leaves me stone cold, because when the source isn't You-Know-Who, it's just meaningless twaddle.

Yet these Fake Teachers all publish their little books and go on speaking tours, because they are greedy fakes who just want to make money, and confuse people by talking like Maharaji does sometimes, and detract from His very important work. When you buy and read THEIR books, you are hurting Mahraji. Knowledge has everything you need. This is why Maharaji said:

'The difference between Knowledge and assurance from a book, is that a book asks us to disregard our feelings, and (tells us) that our feelings can be wrong...

Many things Fake Teacher's say sound similar to things Maharaji often says, and that's dangerous, because a Fake Teacher's book might make you disregard your feelings that Maharaji is the only source of real truth and real peace and real happiness in this world. We might make the tragic mistake of thinking we can be happy, conscious and enjoying life WITHOUT The Master. That's why the techniques of Knowledge are secret, and why The Teacher often ridicules books and their authors. He wisely knows they can create doubt in our minds. And ''He's HERE'' to prevent that from happening, which is just one of many reasons why we NEED to have a MASTER, who is also a Teacher, but really You-Know-Who revealing You-Know-What.

The Master Himself has said that people without Knowlege are really like dead people anyway, I know I was! Until Maharaji showed me how to go inside, notice my breath, and experience life, I was just like a dead person. Maharaji saved me from not noticing I was alive and breathing. NO ONE ELSE could do that. At least, I don't think so, but I don't like to think about that, because it's too much like doubting... anyhow, let's not go there!

Now of course, we don't tell Aspirants that The Teacher is reavealing God to them, and that they are like dead people until that happens, because they might get the wrong idea, if they don't have 'That Understanding' first. You see, they are so confused, they tend to think they are like living people already, and in their ignorance, tend to get offended if you tell them otherwise. And because I'm a nice person, I long ago stopped telling my non-premie family members and friends that they were like dead people. Now I just wait for bad things to happen to them, in hope that adversity will make them more receptive to The Teacher's message.

No, people that don't have Maharaji's Knowledge just can't experience life or their breath, they CAN'T, it's not possible, they need LOTS of time watching videos first, so they can get a chance to see Maharaji through our eyes, the way we see Him. That is what propagation is all about, cultivating That Understanding. I often think, ''If only they could see Him through my eyes... then they would see that He's really... You-Know-Who.''

All these quotes are good advice from You-Know-Who, and further proof I'm not in a cult, or even some silly religion (although if push comes to shove, I'll say it's like a mainstream religion, just to shut people up!). M and K are just the undeniable TRUTH, and if you ungrateful ex-students were not so busy doubting and filtering out the good, you would see that. If you had the heart of a child, you wouldn't ask questions, and it would all make sense.

- Andrea Eriksonn,
Who loves it when the Teacher says ''Don't thank God, Thank The Master.'' He's so much better (and more fun!) than that boring old Jesus guy. Oh, and FYI: Maharaji doesn't answer questions, and as His students, neither will Catweasel or I, so don't bother asking any. His example is good enough for me. We may be nice, but we aren't STUPID. :|

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Date: Tues, Dec 11, 2001 at 22:58:28 (EST)
From: Dot Munchbutt
Email: None
To: Andrea Eriksonn
Subject: Absolutely BEST OF FORUM [nt]
Message:

[nt]

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Date: Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 23:08:59 (EST)
From: Barry
Email: None
To: Jim
Subject: Birthdays are about respect I guess?
Message:

This, however, prompts me to remember the first time I ever saw Maharaji at a big event. I sat right at the top, as far back and as far away as it was possible to be, whilst feeling that he was talking to me alone, and that we were the only people there.

I had that same experience when I was at the Dylan concert years ago at the memorial arena. I really thought his eyes kept meeting mine, and he was singing to me only. Quite wierd yes, but none the less I adored him for so long. I was even dissapointed that he didn't wave goodbye to me or something when he left the stage.

maybe this is something that cult heads depend on eh? that total admiration and respect. It's kind of the first screw they turn, even if they don't know their doing it.

Good post Jim. fuooh! Long sucker too.

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Date: Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 22:20:35 (EST)
From: Jim
Email: None
To: Jim
Subject: 'You never lie' -- choke, cough, sputter!
Message:

Here's Day Two:

Celebrate life!

Miami Beach, 9 December 2001

Thanks to Lucy Robinson from the UK and Lee Hillyard of Long Beach, California for these two informal reports:

From Lucy:

A truly magical event

Maharaji commented at the beginning of Sunday's event, how quickly the first day had 'clicked by'.

It really did seem that this weekend was flying past far too quickly. Sunday's event began as Saturday's had. There were no videos shown before or after Maharaji spoke, but music began and ended the event.

Daya sang a few new songs, and accompanied herself on the piano. Then three people took turns to speak to Maharaji from the side of the stage, give him thanks, and tell him about their experiences during their time with Knowledge. It was a very touching, sweet moment, and Maharaji sat and smiled and laughed as they regaled their emotions and gratitude.

NURTURE AND PROTECT THE HEART
He then spoke about the importance of the heart as the bearer of all the love we feel. His analogy was that of a jar which we might use to keep things in. If, he said, we were told that the jar we had been using to store our marbles and odds and ends in was, in fact, incredibly precious, our priorities would change. No longer would the jar be used to store our junk. The junk would be tipped out, and we would then consider it to be the precious.

Our hearts are equally precious was his reminder, and we should nurture and protect them.

When he had finished speaking, and Daya had sung another beautiful song, people began to get up, and move around. But Maharaji then reappeared onto the stage (to wild applause, as you can imagine), and proceeded to play one of his own musical compositions. It was a rapturous mix of strong Indian beats with fluid melodies. When he finished this song, the hall was alive with people clapping and shouting their thanks and admiration. Meanwhile however, Maharaji had begun his second piece. Everyone instantly began clapping, until Maharaji began to sing. Everyone fell silent to listen to his voice. Anyone who had heard him sing knows how powerful his voice is. He sang, 'Swing me on this beautiful swing', and raised his hands as an invitation to join in with him. Naturally, everyone did. We then all sang together, lead by his voice.

Maharaji wished everyone a happy New Year, and then left the stage. People burst into a round of 'Happy Birthday to You', at which Maharaji playfully poked his head back around the curtain and gave everyone a wave. After this reappearance, no one left their seats for a good ten minutes, hoping to catch another glimpse.

It was a truly magical event, from beginning to end.

Actually, it sounds like a cult meeting.

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From Lee:

'Put down your bags of burden and collect the precious.'

At 12 noon EST Daya came out singing with John Adorney at the keyboard ('It must be love'). With Maharaji giving his darshan smiles, and at the end, clapping.

A person with Knowledge for 32 years got up to say thank you to Maharaji. He said: 'You never lie.'

OHhhhhhhhHHHHHHH! If only ...... errrrrRRRRRRRRR.......

A person with Knowledge of 24 years said 'I was in love with you anyway, why Knowledge? I had a little trouble with the word 'master' because of slavery and all.
But when I realized what 'master' really meant, it became a beautiful thing, and I learned that receiving Knowledge would bring me closer to you.'

A third person stood up to say hank you. He described himself as a 'second generation satsang brat.' When he heard it was going to be Maharaji's videos only, he really wanted to go to satsang. After that he said 'Incredible isn't enough of a word to express how I feel' He told Maharaji he is like the dance song that he likes so much, named 'Flawless.'

Daya came back to the stage, singing and playing the piano.

At 12:19pm Maharaji began his address. He started by saying we cannot allow life to 'click right along.' He posed the question: what if all that was unnecessary was taken away? Like the coffee filter separates the grounds from the brew, what if in our life we could keep only the good?'

'Put down your bag of burdens, and collect the precious.'

'Breathe every breath with meaning.'

'We should be to joy like the moth is to the light... we need to be addicted to clarity...we need to persevere like a river, which never takes a break or stops....in earnest, change our attention to what 'is.' Abandon our bad habit of paying attention to things that are not good for us, and acquire the habit of appreciation...fall in love with simplicity, joy, peace, and tranquility.'

'We don't have to borrow clarity or happiness. It's there. Clarity is there. Be attentive to peace and joy, and they will stay. Create a space so they can dance.'

'Don't pay attention to the doubtmaker.'

'People ask, how do you know about God? God is a feeling and comes when everything else is removed.'

'When I was young, God was prevalent in the family. I wanted something simple. My father said: I can show you God. I felt that was something different.'

'Knowledge is for those who are free'

'Come because you want to.'

'There's this song - 'my boat is moving because of you.' Why do you jump out of the boat to the alligators of fear and anger and confusion? The reason is because of doubt.'

'The difference between Knowledge and assurance from a book, is that a book asks us to disregard our feelings, and (tells us) that our feelings can be wrong...

'Become familiar with that which lets you have feelings.'

'What about your breath? We say, I'm too busy. And then when the last one comes, we say: please, just one more, just one more.'

'Focus on the festival of breath while it is happening.'

'Heart is saying: quench me, fill the cup now.'

'The seed was sown on your farm, and it is best to practice Knowledge when you WANT to practice. Now you have the feast in your life!'

'The one thing we can have an insatiable appetite for is joy, it never gets boring.'

'Enjoy peace now. Take it with joy.'

At 1:05pm Daya came out and sang and played again, 'You are so beautiful to me.'

At 1:08 pm Maharaji sat down at his keyboard, and played an Indian bhajan-style song...it had a flute lead with a guitar backup.

At 1:16pm He played what I call an rock salsa Indian-style song and he sang: 'Swing me in your beautiful swing.'

At 1:23 pm he asked us all to sing along, the whole hall sang along with him: 'Swing me in your beautiful swing.'

At 1:25pm he said goodbye and 'Have a ball, have a blast, see you next year, and happy new year.'

At 1:26pm we all sang 'Happy Birthday' to him.

At 1:27pm he came back out and waved goodbye for the final time.

It's amazing how these people fly from all over the world just to have this bozo assure them he's happy. There is no emotional independence in premiedom. I used to worry so often about pleasing him, not pleasing him, blah blah blah. These people ...

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Date: Tues, Dec 11, 2001 at 18:53:35 (EST)
From: PatD
Email: None
To: Jim
Subject: Different cultures
Message:

'When I was young, God was prevalent in the family. I wanted something simple. My father said: I can show you God. I felt that was something different.'

God was prevalent in my family too,but if my old man had told me he could show me god I'd've checked it out with the parish priest, who would've probably had him banged up in the nut house, had he persisted.

There's so much more room for the spirit to breathe across the hills & far away.

Shit, the way Rawat gets away with this stuff humbles me.

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Date: Tues, Dec 11, 2001 at 23:01:12 (EST)
From: PatC...but what would you have done
Email: None
To: PatD
Subject: if dad told you he was greater than god?;) [nt]
Message:

[nt]

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Date: Tues, Dec 11, 2001 at 11:51:34 (EST)
From: What style did LOTU affect
Email: None
To: Jim
Subject: when singing for his cult stooges?
Message:

Jerry Lee Lewis, Lil' Richard

Liberace

a mixture of Snoop Doggy Dog and Ravi Shankar

'It's the question we must ask, ask 'til we know the answer'

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Date: Tues, Dec 11, 2001 at 14:11:09 (EST)
From: Another Possibility
Email: None
To: What style did LOTU affect
Subject: like a Hindu Tiny Tim [nt]
Message:

[nt]

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Date: Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 23:20:25 (EST)
From: Barry
Email: None
To: Jim
Subject: I wonder?
Message:

It's amazing how these people fly from all over the world just to have this bozo assure them he's happy. There is no emotional independence in premiedom. I used to worry so often about pleasing him, not pleasing him, blah blah blah. These people ...

I wonder how they'd feel coming all that way to hear him say he was very unhappy? maybe this:

'Over there you'll find 30 large tubs of king cobra venom, I'm very pissed off right now......well goodnight! thanks for comen out!'

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