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It absolutely enrages
me when someone presumes to pop in here and thinks
they've come to save us all, as if theyre some
pitying angel looing in on the damned souls in
hell.
It enrages me that you think we came here to whine
and point fingers because we somehow 'didnt get it'
or 'didn't experience the Knowledge' or 'never
really practiced' it and that this is some kind of
sour grapes club.
this site started out as a place where people who
had been premies could meet others who had been
premies and talk about it. in open talking, more
and more became known here.
i say 'had been'premies. you prefer to draw a line
around the change in perception that you beleive
happens with practicing the techniques, and call
that alone, the Knowledge, and you say that all the
rest of it is something else.
lets start with your line then.
if those techniques really do transform a person's
perceptions of life and make them more vulnerable,
soft, receptive, gentle, and in all ways more
innocent and childlike,
then the last thing that should ever happen in a
social group made up of people like that, is abuse,
pain, guilting,manipulation,takeing shamelss
advantage of,browbeating, overworking and
banishment.
if doing the meditation opens a person, can you
understand how being subject to such cruelty would
drive them to leave? why would they stay?
like trusting children, they--we--believed all we
were told, and did what we were told. we were told
to do things, and to beleive things, that were
harmfull for us. the very opening and gentling you
speak of, was then turned and used to hurt us, day
in and day out.
you dont tell a trusting child put his hand in
fire. you don't stand him in a third story window
and give him a cape made out of a blanket and tell
him if he jumps out, he will fly. you don't tell
him if he runs fast enough, he can run between the
cars and get across the street. you dont throw him
into deep water and tell him he can breathe water
just like the fish.
he will believe you, and do it, because you said
so, and he believes you know everything. he
certainly thinks you know more about everything
than he does.
if he does not lose his life for trusting you
and believing you, he will do just as you say--and
instantly his own body will tell him what you told
him isnt true, isnt good for him, hurts, feels all
wrong, is something he must never do again.
if he survives the burn to his hand, the breaks in
his bones, the injuries to his body, the near
drownng in the deep water, he will have learned not
to trust you again and trustwhat his own body and
sense tells him.
how much bigger is it if someone comes down the
pike and declares he can show you god, that he
comes to bring peace to the world in your lifetime,
and if you give your life over to him utterly, it
will happen?
if you trust him, if you believe him, if you do as
he says, and your own body tells you that this isnt
good, this is harmful, that this hurts, that it
isnt so at all--is it any mystery why you would
back away and leave, and tell others as well?
is it surprsing if you should meet another who was
in the same thing, that you should ask each other
and tell each other what it was like for you?
if it ever was what we were told it was, it
would not now look and feel like this.
this, meaning like this site is, and 'this, meaning
what maharaji and the premies and EV and the whole
sordid mission now looks and feels like.
it would look very, very different.
first of all, maharaji himself does not use 'the
knowledge'. he doesnt meditate. he is not remotely
like the state you have chosen to describe as
resulting from the techniques. you talk about 'your
true self'. is that what he shows everyone? well if
that's true, and he's the leader showing how to
live in that state, i hope he dies soon or goes to
prison, because if the world turned into all people
operating like he does, not even a family could
last long enough to bring children into the next
generation. the human race would die out in a war
of ego, selfishness, consumption, profligate waste,
uncaring, using, abusing, conscience-less self
gratification and ennui.
you talk about respect. maharaji has none, for
anyone. when his wife nearly died, three times,
from an aneurism, a weak spot in her blood vessel,
ballooning out, and then bursting, and flooding
blood in her brain, he adressed her as if it had
been something she did deliberately, 'to' them all.
as if she could have decided not to do it!
we all were full premies, here. we all know the
same stuff you know. we all realized knowledge. we
gave our trust. we did what we were told to. we
believed our teacher/master/guru/leader/salesman/
we went without sleep, without adequate food,
medical care, dental care, shut out our families,
left jobs, educations, crossed the world and came
back, believing this guy and his promise.
until our bodies, our true selves, told us
clearly to stop it. our own senses told us not to
believe this, not to do this, anymore.
and it was only then that we began to put together
the true story of what this guy has been doing with
our trust, all these years.
he asked for money to spread knowledge to the
world. we gave money. but thats not what it got
used for.
it went into his pocket for him to waste on his own
appetites while we starved.
he is a monstrosity. we made it possible. it is
our responsibility to the world to unmake what we
created of him. without us, our money, our belief,
our willingness, our work, without premies, he is
nothing.
if we take back all we gave, he will again be
nothing.
it will be good for him.
if knowledge works, as you say, he will know
utterly and for certain, then. if it is truly all
one needs in life, then he certainly will have the
only thing he needs.
thats how his father did it. it was good enough
for him.
the knowledge is not his. he can take it to the
world,if he wants to, yes, by all means, do so. but
it is not his. if i want to teach the whole world
about the alphabet, i can do that. but its not my
alphabet. no one owns it. could i justify and
defend collecting millions of dollars from people i
taught the alphabet to, telling them i have to take
it to the whole world, and instead i keep spending
that money on watches and jets and yachts and
mansions and
jewelry for my wife and my kids and the sexiest of
my female students....
and i tell them they must never reveal what i
taught them to anyone else, only i can do
that---
and then they find out that it is taught for free
in whole continents for nothing, its common
knowledge, no secret, and that they have wasted 30
years of their life doing whaat i said and
believing what i said...
yes they would be furious. with good reason.
here we are, alex.
you've been 'had'. so have we all.
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