Joey -:- Iron in the Soul -:- Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 00:38:48 (EDT)

__ Francesca :C) -:- ***BEST OF FORUM*** Bravo! [nt] -:- Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 13:48:33 (EDT)

__ __ Deborah -:- I agree wholeheartedly -:- Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 13:55:19 (EDT)

__ Carl -:- Rusted, pitted, battered & friable -:- Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 02:33:19 (EDT)

__ such -:- precisely, Joey! [good reading] [nt] -:- Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 01:28:57 (EDT)

Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 00:38:48 (EDT)
From: Joey
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Subject: Iron in the Soul
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It's actually quite disturbing to many that in the eyes of EV and M's internet spin artists, the victims of Jagdeo's horrifying abuse are somehow not victims at all, but they've become instead trading cards in a PR game that can be viewed with deserved skepticism and even cynicism, as Maharaji covering his ass by trashing those who have been hurt the most in this sordid affair.

Closing one's eyes to the true nature of evil is certainly nothing new in the world of bullshit intellectuals. In that sense, someone like Richard II should know that he doesn't stand alone. It is in fact the kind of denial Jean-Paul Sartre, author of the classic existential novel Iron in the Soul, made famous.
Confronted with hard evidence of the evils of Stalinism, Sartre and his partner in crime, Simone de Beauvoir, were unrelenting supporters of the communist regime, and remained so until uncontrovertible evidence risked turning their reputations as champions of freedom into self-mockery.

Yet revisionism and denial did not die with Sartre and De Beauvoir. They live on in myriad incarnations all around us, and here on thre ex-premie forum in the likes of Richard II, Bjorn, Catweasle, etc.,anonymous trolls or ghosts as you like, but each actually revealing in his/her own way, how knowledge and devotion to m may be more a matter of 'iron in the soul' than it is of 'that feeling, that peace, that love'
With each act of denial and obfuscation of the issues, these people who so willingly reduce themseves to the ridiculous status of anonymous cartoon characters, seem to remain blissfully unaware that through their use of exculpatory language and callow justifications, they give succor not only to Maharaji and Jagdeo, but to sexual offenders everywhere.

All this, in spite of the fact, as Jim put it:
Maharaji most certainly compromised the security of premies and their children by dealing secretly with every Mahatma sex scandal as it arose. Rather than admit that these guys were just regular human beings and not to be trusted any more than anyone else, he lead us to believe that they were 'holy men' or 'saints'. Their mystique heightened like this, he could count on major support from them for his own mystique as Lord. This is obvious and borne out by the historical record. There is no denying it.

Now it's quite obvious that if a premie like Richard II for example, who actually seems quite intelligent and bright (if not utterly twisted), seemingly representative of Maharaji's bullshit intelligentsia (even though it's understandable that Maharaji mentioned in the same breath as 'intelligentsia' sounds completely oxymoronic)...if he can't accept the obviousness of Jim's statement, then we might want to examine-what exactly is Richard II's problem?

British historian Paul Johnson, who wrote a scathing examination of the private lives of celebrated intellectuals, has shown that certain members of a society's intelligentsia, whose prime motivation is either ego gratification or self-publicity will take stands that vitiate against both logic and their own principles in orger to advance their socio-economic status. But the level of cognitive dissonance necessary to bury one's conscience so completely must require something more. Of course in the case of someone like Richard II, we know what that 'something more' is- a cultic sense of devotion to maharaji and knowledge. Hence, he chooses the role of Maharaji apologist for himself.

Now if we were to look for a moment at the way in which the Hitler and Stalin apologists for example, who were prominent thinkers, leaders and champions of freedom in their own societies, remained so unmoved by mounting evidence of concentration camps and forced labor gangs, we can see one of history's more egregious examples of moral blindness
What's truly amazing is that Maharaji's apologists have attempted to raise that brand of denial to a current level of acceptability. Again, all one has to do is witness their inability to accept certain basics in the situation, the kind of basics contained in Jim's statement that I've already quoted.

But is this repeated incidence of premie self-delusion an example of a career premie's attempt to advance his/her status with m and within his cult? It obviously isn't self publicity since whoever he is, he's choosing to post anonymously.

OR, is it just plain heartlessness?
Whatever the answer, it seems that m's legacy of abuse continues to unfold. This may be the time for any premie who still considers him/herself a thinking and caring person to question whether m's poisoned nipples are worthy of being sucked on till your last breath?

If the answer to that question is yes, you may want to check your spiritual barometer for a malignant condition that should be recognized, unmistakably, not as knowledge...but as, iron in the soul.

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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 13:48:33 (EDT)
From: Francesca :C)
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To: Joey
Subject: ***BEST OF FORUM*** Bravo! [nt]
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Date: Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 13:55:19 (EDT)
From: Deborah
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To: Francesca :C)
Subject: I agree wholeheartedly
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Hi Francesca,

I also agree with you about focusing on the good stuff on the forum and what we don't need to be doing with our time, i.e. arguing with disruptive trolls.

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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 02:33:19 (EDT)
From: Carl
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To: Joey
Subject: Rusted, pitted, battered & friable
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Excellent post Joey.

What we are seeing being played out in all this is the venal underside of human nature, a morally bankrupt and cynical abuse of persons and resources for the self-aggrandizement and enrichment of an irresponsible phantom convinced he is above common decency, common sense and fundamental justice.

We could go on and on with scathing terms for the fraudmeister and his nonsense, but the compelling drama will be in how he dances to try to escape the results of his actions. If karmic law has any validity, then this is impossible. Results will always follow. If actions are corrupt, contemptible and concealed, then what will follow? Godly eternal wisdom and bliss? 'Love'? I don't think so.

This M&K phenomena is extremely instructive, however. Cults abound. This drama is similar to many others, and is probably the playing out of an age-old archetype: Pride goeth before a fall. Hubris creates its own doom. That's karmic law. We may live to see it and learn from it. There may be in us all a seed-tendency or something similar to M's exaggerated delusions and ego, regrettably. May we be purged of it.

Best,
Carl

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Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 01:28:57 (EDT)
From: such
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To: Joey
Subject: precisely, Joey! [good reading] [nt]
Message:

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