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The
Michael Nouri Knowledge
Hour
- Why does'nt M JUST TELL THE TRUTH??!!..
Academy
Awards (Oscars)
- Vote for your favorites
Ending
This
- The Process may be hard but FREEing
Setting
History Straight
- One of the 1st western premie's testimony
The
Making of a Mess
- Neville's account of the Amaroo
experience
Why
I Received K / Stayed / left
Miragey's
recent diatribe
- Kelly's last drip: “Introducing the possibility of
knowledge”
The
disclosures about the Jagdeo sexual
abuse
- and the cult's and premies' response to it, helped her to
leave the cult
Michael
Donner's letter to M
- He confirms M. Dettmers' posts and more
Rollins
- Did M stress me out...?
Welcome
to All the Presidents Men
- They're All coming out of the closet...1 by 1
Gratitude
to this Forum -
and its participants
Pam:
my memoirs
- My concern for the welfare of people under Maharaji's
aegis
Goody
goody girl
- What Happened Maharaji???
To
David Andersen
- I have taken K & M most seriously all my life
Why
I am no longer a premie
- leaving is the only option!
The
Trainings, another Subjective
View
- and the start of reintegration into the human race
What
was the KIT training all
about
- that's what blasted me straight out of the cult real fast
and for good
Spin
doctors vs. integrity
- Why most people left the maha
cult
I
started reading EPO
- and then everything explodes in your head....
The
Cornerstone is out of place
- We weren't selfish enough to be true premies
Premies
and Empowerment
- What kept us involved ?
Philosophical
Question
- What if a real "Messiah" descended on
Earth?
Miscellaneous
Service
and compensation
- if Elan Vital honestly cared about the people who work for
them for free
Guruism
and nonsense
- watch the last struggles of a dying voodoo cult killed by
science and democracy
I had
Movie Star darshan last
night
- This is good example
Getting
caught in a cult
- Do you really get knowledge of your own free will?
If
you like it fine ...
- Thus spake Miragey
This
forum's agenda:
- restoring one's analytical and critical
faculties
The
Cainer Saga
- The Daily Mail seems unaware that its own astrologer is
a devotee of a sinister cult. The Guardian
I
have done several Indian sweat
ceremonies
- and I do not require or need a master telling me how to
satisfy myself
Miami
Event April 18-20
- Poignant spiritual bankruptcy
Maharaji's
Lies
Captain
Rawat
- Liar of all Liars
Knowledge
is NOT free
- It cost me plenty. Most everything I
had
Controversy
Over Colston Hall Dates
- RAWAT INVESTED OUR MONEY!!!
Finances
/ DECA / Amtext
Amtext
- Text Mart, this textbook-buying company
MD 707
Stories
- Why he doesn't want to fly commercial airlines
MD More
on the 707
- Why M is a shareholder in pwk's enterprises
Money
diversion
- Premie money given for propogation used to finance his
whims & extravagant lifestyle
IRS info
- Complying with requests for
information
Religion
On
'Turning the other cheek'
- I don’t think that he is saying that one should never
be angry or fight for what is right; according to the gospel
texts.
The
wisdom of Kabir
- and more
Ashrams
Maharaji's
Ashram Scandal
- That will dog him for the rest of his life
Ashram/Techniques
- Who has been abused ?
Suicides
Jennifers
Journey
- How much evidence would satisfy you?
Pathologizing
the victims
- One of them is dead. He was my brother
It
happened to me
- Yes, cults CAN be dangerous
Open
letters to EV & M
My
Letter to Rawat
- Regarding Jagdeo. And EV's written answer to Susan
My
Email to Elan Vital
- A
former 'volunteer' employee of EV complains
Jim
Sander's open letters
- to EV/Chapel Hill/Durham NC community
Cynthia
J. Gracie
- An Open Letter to Mr. Rawat
Abi's
open letter to m - I
- Why can't you spare us a few hours of your time when we
have given you so many years of our lives?
Abi's
open letter to m - II
- I also appreciate that you are deeply sorry for the pain
that Jagdeo has caused me, my brothers and my
father
Revisionism
& EV today
EV
Scared of Exes' Strategy
Meetings!
- Where is the agitator's office?
Response
to Elan Vital
- from one of his critics
Does
Maharaji have an affluent
lifestyle?
- A response to EV's FAQ
What
is the Maharaji Cult?
- Elan Vital says it's not
Is
this a Church I see before
me?
- EV's very questionable status
How
can Premies justify a 7 million $
yacht?
- Where did all this money come from?
Jim's
Email to Joan Apter
- Is Maharaji just one of a series of 'teachers, mentors and
inspirations'?
I
went to a Satellite Video Event last
night
- It's babying in the extreme
Maharaji
in Oxnard
- One and only one way to be happy: with Him &
Knowledge
Atlanta
Propaganda Seminar
- He has basically again said nothing as usual
Jim's
letter to Pia
- My demand for a retraction
Jim's
further letter
- to Pia
JM's
letter
- to Pia
JM's
version
- of the Combat publication's history
Sorting
out confusion
- Who's creating that obscurity and keeping you in
darkness?
King
of Yogis and EV
- slip on a bunch of banana skins!
On
human respect
- the fluctuations of org political correctness
For
Harry to consider
- M's lies about so many things
Iron
in the Soul
- M covering his ass by trashing those who have been hurt
the most. Revisionism and denial did not die with Sartre
Best
piece of cult apologism
ever
- by D. Lovejoy & D. Roupell
E.
Andersen is fond of
'Accuracy'
- Care to address these points, Erika?
Erika's
101 Reasons...
- Worse than being in a cult, is to be in one & not know
it
EV's
death throttle? M's demise?
- Winding EV back to near-nothin?
Passages
Spin
- Are they trying to say that we were out there looking for
an Hindu religion to follow?
That
does it
- Paid actors showing people how to introduce people to
K!
KIT
- How-to-sell-Knowledge-
without-looking-or-sounding-like-you're-selling-Knowledge
Season's
Greetings
- Ex-premies are loosers!
Response
to Erika's disgusting spin on the
Ashrams
- It’s about justice, Erika. It’s about damage
done to real human beings
New
from Erika: 'Filtering out the
Good'
- There is nothing approaching a "balanced view" of Maharaji
on the cult websites, in his videos, or in the Visions
publications
Mahatma
Behavior
Regarding
Jagdeo
- LISTEN, MAHARAJI, YOU COWARD
What
a Year
- Don't forget...that Jagdeos serious crimes were also
reported to Mahatma Gurucharanand, by the father of another
victim
Jagdeo
- They knew for years
Jagdeo
in Africa
- has the Sampuranand issue been fully explained?
Susan's
phone call-
with Judy Osborne
Realities
...
- Jagdeo
Statement
of Lack of Faith
- EPO to EV/Rawat
M and
sex offenders
- M suppressed knowledge about the risks of trusting
mahatmas
Locked
in a room with Jagdeo
- Abi's testimony & nightmares. He is sick and the cult
that let this happen is sick
Murder
Attempt in Detroit
Response
from Patrick Halley
- For the record, I never hated Guru Maharaji...
2nd
Letter from Patrick Halley
- A protest against 2,500 years of illegitimate religious
authority
Pat
Halley's Third Letter
- and summation of the whole
issue
Premies
on Forum V/VI/VII...
Why
Don't Premies Stay Around
- Premies
post on the forum, and then, invariably, split
Premies
are you wasting your time
here?
- No wonder they come here to the Ex-Premie Forum where they
can openly express themselves
To
MD, another perspective
entirely
- Isn't it insulting to assume that people cannot make up
their own minds about the posts on this forum?
Erika
- Best premie on EPO
To
Premie Ji
- my advice
Dissension
?
- How a sincere person lives in a world that has been
created by another person's perspective and his/her own
misguided belief system
Leaving
M
The
Last Degrees of Separation
- Conflicts you have in trying to extricate
You
don't just one day quit
rawatism
- It is a long process that you mostly aren't aware of
Depression:
The unbearable darkness of
believing
- Cults by their very nature will persecute depression
sufferers and exacerbate their condition
Come
Out of the Closet!
- You simply feel better as a person
The
Personal v. the Big Picture
- Which is more significant?
Enjoy
your life?
- M is a monstrosity. Without premies, he is nothing. The
knowledge is not his
Katie
D
- Keeping the 'exit counselling' conversation alive
The
many faces
- of denial, part two
WAKE
UP, premies!!
- Master/slave-ry is Dead!!!
Ending
this
- The Process may be hard but FREEing
No
devotional ladder
- the fellowship of people striving to know the truth
Why
did some of us
- stick with M and K so long?
M's
real message
- I am the filament
4
Part Guru Expose
- The bathwater and the baby
Recognition
of alienation
- A metaphor
Waking
up
- Just getting brave enough to stick my toes in the water of
not denying the facts
Grateful
newly exiting premie
- when the facts come to light
Any
fence-sitters looking
around?
- When you go through the process of thinking about
leaving...
You've
got to see that even in your
pain
- ... you are already way ahead in the truth stakes
No
Real Sadness At Waking up
- and leaving the Maharaji cult
COMPASSION
- for those that might come in contact with the facts about
M
Please
define an 'ex'
- we have taken a stand
Sympathy
for the devil?
- last gasp of holding onto a fake God
The
Frog in the Well
- More on the frog, his well and the EPO ocean
Exiting
the Miragey Cult
- can be a difficult but liberating process
Rollercoasters,
feelings, and the forum
- It's not perfect!
Why
so much hate ?
- we do violence to others when we assume their differences
to be flaws and afflictions
Life
after 'Knowledge'
Arrested
development
- but released on bail
Stress
of cult followers
- It will possibly take years for this human being to get
out of m's grip
Living
with our differences
- can make a big difference in
us
Maharaji's
Behavior
KK,
another ex-PAM, speaks out
- Maharaji's mantra was MONEY
Well,
we sure got M's
attention!!!!
- the Rock of Gibraltar has cracked
Bad
things happen - the Measure of a
Master
- That is the only way to see what they are made of
Libeling
Maharaji
- It's only libel if it's false. LET'S GO!!!
Internet's
influence on propagation?
- Maharaji's life is a mess
Aren't
M's Sexual Abuses really about
Power?
- He was looking for PREMIE WOMEN TO HAVE SEX WITH - like
objects! And these are beings who have entrusted their souls
to him
Ashrams/Pot/Meat/Alcohol
and m's hypocrisy
Fear
of M
- How M pushed Sampuranand to the floor and began to punch
him in the face viciously
MD Sazyou
- M's life is a testament to cynicism and greed
MD Despite
his wealth
- Maharaji’s greed knows no boundariess
MD The
real issue about m
- him taking responsibility and accountability
Another
Michael Donner comment
- What M does really love
M.
Donner. Care?
- He never allowed a personal relationship with anyone
Latest
from Patrick
- Maharaji is reported to be reading this site
Former
instructor describes
- nauseating experiences
Even
premies admit
- M's behavior
He
used to humiliate me
- M putting people around him down constantly
David
Andersen on 'catalyst'
- The ONLY one Rawat loves is himself
The
Empty-Calorie Satguru
- does Maharaji speak as one who has mastered
meditation?
Exactly
how many funerals has M
attended
- of his devotees who have
died?
Claims
What
Maharaji said on that night
- About the sewage of the mind
Has
anything M has said ever not been
true?
- Excellent question!
Amnesia
- Why would anyone believe that he the 'Lord of the
Universe'?
This
is topical!
- M about the Clinton-Lewinsky
debacle
M and
the Evil Mind
- GM JI, The Lord, All-Powerful: more genuine
quotes
Maharajism
- Rawatism
My
Message to Aspirants
- Have common sense
Beyond
Belief
- The Maharaji phenonenon is a belief system
Third
Technique Update!
- The
swinging third technique
The
Nine Techniques
- Taught by m's mahatmas in the old days
Did
M think he was God
incarnate?
- Did we? Does he? Do we?
The
Mirror and the Vampire
- The illusion of surrendered control
Do
premies secretly hate m?
- M's grip on people: the denial of feelings
Dyslexia
- and his responsibility for things he's said and done
Getting
'netted' or getting
'hooked'?
- It’s designed to get you flat on the slab
But
were/are you happy?
- my problems 'around' were directly due to him
Hypothetical
Questions
- Indeed
The
continuing deposition of MD
- About the 75-77 'changes'
Compassion
or Condemnation
- That behavior must be condemned in the most vociferous
manner
Perimeter
of Chaos
- Surrounding M and the message that he is delivering.
Deception
at the heart of the cult
- 'X rating' the people close to Maharaji
Coordinators
Meetings Dec, 1976
- M's come-back as the incarnation of God
Challenges!!
- The Truth cannot be damaged by close inspection
Who
brought M to the west?
- More details
Why
Elan Vital/Maharaji
- is a CULT -- To Premies
Masters
are
- for dogs
The
millennial Master's
- amorphous aphorisms
The
many faces of denial
- Bait and switch, and the aspirant process
Golden
toilets ?
- It's like trying to spit shine shit
Some
wise man said...
- Mahooey is a master only in his own mind
Superficial,
superstitious
- pompous and wrong
To
Mr. William on love
- M has trapped pwks in the very duality that he earlier
warned against
Logic
and Knowledge
- You can only prove it to yourself
ELK's
report about the Miami
program
- Oh Maharaji, please don't ever leave us!!!!
Yes,
Maharaji Really Is A Cult
Leader
- Here is why
What
M actually 'Says'
- ... it's so EASY to understand
The
Atlanta training
- You Won't Believe It
How
did I believe those
lies?
- continuously persuading myself
I
think-Knowledge good / Gurus
bad
- the other side of the story
They
don't know what's going on
- They DAREN'T look!
Shifting
Allegiances
- The Yoof only Event
The
"Inner Secret" of
Fulfillment
- 4 major points of the belief system
Is
This Helpful ?
- How anybody would make mincemeat out this whole M
business
What
were the basic myths promoted by
PR?
- Only premies know what life is really about
The
Master of The Bait and
Switch
- From showing you peace to “being connected to
him”
Why
they're not interested in Knowledge
Went
to Dec. 8-9 Event
- enough is enough
Attacks
by PWKs over the Internet
Attacked
by the Maharaji Cult
- STATEMENT BY VICTIMS
To
EV, M and everyone
- A couple of good will gestures might really help
Fascist
cult fear tactics
- vs. legitimacy
Peoples
Temple, EV and CAC
- Pams' actions in covering up the truth about M & his
cult are responsible for diverting the lives of countless
others
Why
do Sicko Cacweasels post
here
- and make sites like CAC?
Origins
/ Lineage / Hinduism
On
Guru Lineage
- Who was Hans Ji's guru?
Rev
Rawat's "Knowledge"
- is a perversion of a simple mental health regimen designed
to instill dependence on the guru
The
diaspora of Gujeratis
- and M's premies
Parody
/ Humor
The
Real Historic Dialogue
- Between Sarupanand and Hans
Maharaji,
if you are reading
- Here's your speech
Arti
- the updated lyrics
The
impeccability requirement
- Here is a true story
One
of my last 'drips'
- M: that's not good enough
Yes
M is an enigma
- so that people can relate to him in this confused
world
The
Status of Elan Vital
- We are just working like synchronized beavers getting that
together
This
Forum, when On Topic
- is a UNIQUE and Powerful Asset
Memories
of India 1972
- I never knew how long a turd could be
M's
Urban legends
- including M's trip to the planet of the perfect masters
and meeting with Durga on the way back
Academy
Awards (Oscars)
- Vote for your favorites
Prem
Rawat Foundation & Large
Breasts
- A dream for a Perfect Lover
Guru
Garage Sale
- Hundreds of discounts on accessories exclusively at
"Honest Prem's"
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Questions
to Michael Dettmers and his
answers
After
he's been questioned on the Ex-Premie.Org Forum, and a few
phone calls and email exchanges with Jim Heller that Jim
reported on the Forum, Michael Dettmers - one of Maharaji's
former assistant and advisor in the 70s and 80s - decided to
engage in conversations on the
Forum.
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Michael
Dettmers speaks out
- on the ashrams' closure (April 2000)
Dettmers
speaks out a little more
- on the ashrams' closure
My
Latest Talk with M.
Dettmers
- The reasonable people all got out already or, if they
haven't yet, they will (October 2000)
M.
Dettmers: My Response &
Comments
- His experience being around Maharaji
Joe's
Question to M. Dettmers
- About M's Responsibility
Various
Questions
- and Mike's anwers (October 2000)
My
Responses to your additional
questions
- I don’t recall Maharaji ever really caring about the
welfare of anybody but himself and his family
I've
been warned
- 'Threat' from the pro-Maharaji camp?
Additional
Questions to MD
- It was always somebody else’s fault
An
e-mail from Elan Vital
- EV completely miss the point.
A
Few Questions for MD
- Yes, he had (has?) a serious drinking problem and I told
him so
Another
Question for MD
- About M's Darshan
Bob
Mishler, Sophia Collier, et
al
- Raising consciousness
The
Swiss Foundation 1
- I created the Foundation in Switzerland
The
Swiss Foundation 2
- Support Maharaji’s programs and tours around the
world
Response
to Joe, Janet & Rob
- Thanks for explaining all that, Mike
I
believed M could make a difference in the
world
- but his consumption of ever more expensive worldly
possessions is an abomination of the love and devotion that
made it all possible
My
response to your question
- You, and others, have been persistent in your efforts to
get me to provide inside information
My
responses to la-ex
- How could we, and especially the PAMS (who saw so much
contradictory and hypocritical behavior) not see through so
much of this sooner?
A
question and some comments
- Jagdeo, M smoking pot, etc
My
response to Joe and others
- M's homophobia and offensive jokes
Maharaji
was not drunk five out of seven days a
week
- He did drink cognac every single day during the time I was
around him and he always drank in the evening after
dinner
More
Questions for Michael
Dettmers
- Maharaji's secret liaisons
Not
my last response
- Maharaji killed a man
Maharaji's
reaction to the death of this
cyclist
- Just one example of many in which he has exhibited less
than exemplary behavior
Questions
on various issues
How
M & Durga Ji tried to solve their
problems
- M's concerns about not losing face
Michael
Dettmers Interview
- Transript of a chat with M. Dettmers
My
response to Jim Sander
- I did not easily come to the conclusion to
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